Hi Ron
Yes you're right and what I was probably thinking was 'some of you' shy
away from only setting one goal. In my example I only have one
measurable goal and I find that it really helps clients to have one
thing that they want, can watch and see progress with. Then they are
open to setting further goals. What kind of rules do you have regarding
discharge once goals are met? Is this a reason why some therapists want
to have multiple goals initially?

Joan Riches B.Sc.O.T., OT(C)
Specialist in Cognitive Disability
Riches Consulting
High River, Alberta, Canada
403 652 7928
 
-----Original Message-----
From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On
Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: February 17, 2009 8:11 PM
To: Joan Riches
Subject: Re: [OTlist] purposeful activity


Hello Joan:

Thanks  for  your  personal  and  professional  insight.  I hate to only
comment on ONE thing, but something really struck me. You said:

        "Any  deficit  affects so much in present or future occupational
        performance  that  I think some of us shy away from limiting the
        reason for working on something to one goal."

I  think  this  is  SO true! I don't know why therapist feel the need to
write  multiple  goals.  I frequently have only ONE goal. I'm curious to
read others' comments on the topic of one goal!

Thanks again!!

Ron

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----- Original Message -----
From: Joan Riches <jric...@telusplanet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
To:   OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com>
Subj: [OTlist] purposeful activity

JR> Greetings to all
JR> I couldn't resist this one.

JR> In my opinion (like Ron's) all activity has purpose for someone or
JR> something (witness the reproduction of plants) . The OT question re
the
JR> activities we use as treatment interventions is: Does this activity
have
JR> purpose and therefore meaning for this client in terms of their
explicit
JR> and implicit occupational goals? 
JR> I absolutely agree with Ron's goal formulation where the only goal
is
JR> some form of OCCUPATIONAL performance. 
JR> (In the presence of cognitive deficits this becomes a much more
JR> difficult question.)
JR> Below is my personal physical and OT/PT case example.

JR> I've been thinking about it a lot in my present situation and how it
JR> plays out. I am still after 14 months working on the stability of
the
JR> hip that was pinned and the range and strength in the shoulder with
a
JR> nondisplaced fracture. Although I am determined not to walk or run
with
JR> the typical 'hip' gait or to limit my reach and ability with my arm
I
JR> find it very difficult to persist in activities that are not useful
and
JR> meaningful 'at the time'. Especially now that the physical
limitations
JR> are only apparent when I'm challenged - trying to walk a distance
across
JR> a large parking lot quickly to keep an appointment for instance or
JR> helping to unload plywood from the truck or screwing a light bulb
into a
JR> ceiling fixture - it is easy to have 'life' push out the daily
JR> excercises. I am not of the generation the 'works out for the sake
of'.
JR> I have a brilliant and understanding PT. He knows the 30 to 45
straight
JR> minutes a day will just not get done. He knows that I want to
recover
JR> not adapt. So he knows what I need to do and  collaborates with me
to
JR> find ways to incorporate the movements into my regular activities
such
JR> as mindfully using the stairs, varying pace, not using the railings
to
JR> pull myself up etc. The stairs themselves cue me as do the top
shelves
JR> in the kitchen where I store at least three things that I use for
JR> breakfast each morning.
JR> My morning routine now includes an exercise where I need a
significant
JR> break between sets. So I do a set and then clean my teeth etc. thus
JR> being purposeful with the 'dead' time. There is an exercise for my
JR> shoulder for which I need help. This has been tacked on to my
husband's
JR> regular morning care. I do his compression stockings and he does my
JR> shoulder. Bob checks my style and is available if I have questions
but
JR> my next visit will be in eight weeks - down from six the last time -
JR> down from 3X/week when we started.
JR>  I have no doubt at all that what Bob does for me is PT. His purpose
is
JR> directed to foundation abilities and what else affects my
occupational
JR> performance is not his concern. Over time he sees my delighted
reporting
JR> of the things I can do as evidence that his treatment of the
foundation
JR> skill is effective.  I have a good team with a PT and an OT(me).
JR> My occupational goals include all the things that I need to walk or
run,
JR> reach, carry or support including the effective use of my hands to
be
JR> able to do - however measureable goals are demanded from us. So for
the
JR> shoulder I have picked one daily activity - doing up my bra that is
a
JR> measureable goal to monitor progress. (can now do effectively but
with
JR> some discomfort).
JR> So PT goal - to increase shoulder range and strength to facilitate
JR> dressing.
JR> OT goal - to fasten bra with both hands behind the back without
JR> discomfort. This is a good fit and focus for me - what would work
for
JR> someone else in a similar situation will depend on whether it is an
JR> important thing to be able to do. Many women adapt by doing it up in
JR> front and twisting it around.

JR> Conclusion 
JR> Any deficit affects so much in present or future occupational
JR> performance that I think some of us shy away from limiting the
reason
JR> for working on something to one goal. The progress in the physical
JR> foundational skill is so easy to measure but it leaves out all the
other
JR> the factors that also affect occupational performance. 

JR> Thanks for reading this far. It has been a joy to see all the new
JR> members coming on. I haven't been at all active on the list lately
JR> partly because to say everything I want to takes me so long to type.
I
JR> would very much appreciate your comments and feedback.
JR> So many topics to wade into - the discussions are bearing great
fruit, I
JR> think.
JR> Soft  theory - so important.

JR> Blessings, Joan 

JR> Joan Riches B.Sc.O.T., OT(C)
JR> Specialist in Cognitive Disability
JR> Riches Consulting
JR> High River, Alberta, Canada
JR> 403 652 7928
JR>  
JR> -----Original Message-----
JR> From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On
JR> Behalf Of Ron Carson
JR> Sent: February 17, 2009 4:16 AM
JR> To: Diane Randall
JR> Subject: Re: [OTlist] purposeful activity


JR> In  my opinion, all activity has purpose. Lifting weights, pulling
pegs,
JR> making  cupcakes, bowling, etc. I truly can't think of any activity
that
JR> doesn't  have  a  purpose. I think OT's often want to "claim"
purposeful
JR> activity  as  our  mantra,  but all profession have purposeful
activity,
JR> don't they?

JR> Interestingly,  when I was teaching a Human Occupation class, there
were
JR> 3 words student's could not use in class, the "a" word, the "p" word
and
JR> "f" word".

JR> <a> = activity <p> = purposeful <f> = function

JR> Thanks,

JR> Ron

JR> --
JR> Ron Carson MHS, OT
JR> www.OTnow.com



JR> ----- Original Message -----
JR> From: Diane Randall <spark...@rcn.com>
JR> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
JR> To:   otlist@otnow.com <otlist@otnow.com>
JR> Subj: [OTlist] purposeful activity

DR>> In your opinion, what makes an activity purposeful and how would
you
JR> go
DR>> about making a non-ADL actvity purposeful?  Thanks Diane OTAS






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