Hi Michiel,

Thanks for your input and proposition.

As for now we are in production with only one department, so people can live 
with that non-sense (for us :) locking system. I put a generic job that unlocks 
tickets so it is a way to solve this.

Is it possible to receive your own e-mail address directly so that we can keep 
in touch for future commercial arrangement? As I am sure this system will 
become a new standard here at WIPO (= 1300 people).

We will need some development in the near future as other Departments will go 
live.

I tried once to create an account for the bugs thing but it didn't work. I will 
retry now ...

Greetings

Philippe

Philippe Martignier
Communications Division
Customer Service Section
Email : philippe.martign...@wipo.int
Phone : 00 41 022 338 72 36
Building : GB II
Office : 0,3

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   1. Re:  Postmaster Cron does not start after reboot (Gerrit Tamboer)
   2.   Clever OTRS =) (Gazizov Andrey)
   3. Re:  2.4.5. bugs with lock : always locks the ticket
      (Michiel Beijen)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:46:22 +0100
From: "Gerrit Tamboer" <ger...@halma.nl>
Subject: Re: [otrs] Postmaster Cron does not start after reboot
To: "User questions and discussions about OTRS." <otrs@otrs.org>
Message-ID: <20100104174622.be306...@kerio01.halma.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Check the cronjobs.

/opt/otrs/var/cron

To see if the cron is running:
crontab -u -l otrs

Good luck.
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  From: Gordon O'Brien [mailto:gordon.obr...@mediasquare.co.uk]
To: Gordon O'Brien [mailto:gordon.obr...@mediasquare.co.uk], otrs@otrs.org
Sent: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:40:03 +0100
Subject: [otrs] Postmaster Cron does not start after reboot



Hi

I am running OTRS 2.4.5 on OpenSUSE 11.1

I have a problem when the server is rebooted after updates. The Postmaster mail 
account will not fetch email from the configured POP3 account unless I click 
?run now? or manually execute ./Cron sh start otrs

Is there a way for this to automatically start after a reboot?

Thanks.


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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:53:14 +0300
From: Gazizov Andrey <moonshi...@retn.net>
Subject: [otrs]  Clever OTRS =)
To: "User questions and discussions about OTRS." <otrs@otrs.org>
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Hello all.

I'm sorry, it was a misprint. Surely, under "Theme" I mean "Subject",
thanks to ?????? that noted it ;-) Has anybody idea how I can make this?

?????? ????? ?????:
> Andrey, before posting to english-speaking mailing list, switch your
> OTRS from russian to english. "????" is not "Theme" there but "Subject".
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Gazizov Andrey <moonshi...@retn.net
> <mailto:moonshi...@retn.net>> wrote:
>
>     Happy New Year dear OTRS users ;-)
>
>     Under the end of the year I have a following task - it would be
>     great for me that otrs create ticket only in that case if it
>     satisfies to following points:
>
>     - responsible
>     - theme
>     - freetext fields
>     etc..
>
>     I.e. until user will not correctly specify a theme of the ticket
>     or responsible ticket it is not created. It's possible in OTRS?
>
>     Thanks in advance.
>
>     --
>     Best regards,
>     Andrey Gazizov
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:02:04 +0100
From: Michiel Beijen <mich...@beefreeit.nl>
Subject: Re: [otrs] 2.4.5. bugs with lock : always locks the ticket
To: "User questions and discussions about OTRS." <otrs@otrs.org>
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Hi Philippe,

Sorry for not responding earlier. Actually, the mailing list is not
what we use for software bug tracking - we use http://bugs.otrs.org
for that. You can create an account there and log a bug report. But
then still, we will not commit to solve your issues. The "scratch your
own itch" principle applies here. This basically means that while some
bugs will be valid bugs, we only have limited time resources and may
or may not fix your bug as soon as you might hope - just because the
bug might be specifically annoying for you but other people would get
along without it just fine.

So, if you'd want to make sure your issues get fixed, please get a
support contract and/or contact en...@otrs.com to see what we can do
comercially for you.

Now back to your issues.
> When we change the owner of a ticket, the ticket is always locked Even if you 
> put No in that parameter:
> Ticket::Frontend::AgentTicketOwner###RequiredLock ? to be corrected

This is a misconception. The RequiredLock config option is for
something else. If you would set the same option in AgentTicketNote to
'Yes', it would mean that if you leave a note on a ticket the ticket
will get locked to you if it's not already locked. Note that it will
lock the ticket BEFORE leaving the actual note. . If you set it to
'No', the ticket will remain unlocked if you just leave a note.

In the case of AgentTicketOwner, the option is a little bit useless
because at the end of the transaction it will lock the ticket anyway
to the owner to which you are assigning to, but that's a different
issue.

The idea of a lock is that you assign the ticket to somebody who is
then going to be responsible for it. You should not assign a ticket to
somebody if you have not discussed with him first; because if he's not
there the ticket might escalate. Otherwise you should probably be
using Move instead. Move to a queue would cause the ticket to be
unlocked, because no specific user is assigned to it.
I hope you can see the reasoning behind this.

> Bug 2: bulk action
>
> Locks all the tickets

This is also 'as designed' - the idea is that bulk action should be
close to what a 'normal' action would do. Some actions will lock
tickets, bulk actions do the same. There's another issue with it; it
will change the owner to the current user if its unlocked. See also
http://bugs.otrs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4629

This can be cumbersome though, especially in some scenarios if you
just want to make bulk updates to tickets when you're changing your
queue structure, or when you're doing other such administrative tasks.
This is why we might be looking into redesigning this feature in
future releases.

If you and/or your company are interested in sponsoring this
development and work with us to redesign it in a way that it will work
easier, better and faster, please drop me a line.

Kindest regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Martignier, Philippe
<philippe.martign...@wipo.int> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> I upgrade to the last version 2.4.5 but the bugs for the lock are still
> there:
>
>
>
> Bug 1 : owner
>
> When we change the owner of a ticket, the ticket is always locked
>
> Even if you put No in that parameter:
> Ticket::Frontend::AgentTicketOwner###RequiredLock ? to be corrected
>
>
>
> Bug 2: bulk action
>
> Locks all the tickets and no requiredlock for that ? to be implemented
>
>
>
> I would like to have some input from OTRS about these two points as it is
> not the first time I post about these two points. (Ok lets pass this holiday
> period J
>
>
>
> See you next year !
>
>
>
> Philippe Martignier
>
> Communications Division
>
> Customer Service Section
>
> Email : philippe.martign...@wipo.int
>
> Phone : 00 41 022 338 72 36
>
> Building : GB II
>
> Office : 0,3
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:36:17 -0000
From: "Gordon O'Brien" <gordon.obr...@mediasquare.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [otrs] Postmaster Cron does not start after reboot
To: "User questions and discussions about OTRS." <otrs@otrs.org>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks for your response.

I appear to have two entries in crontab for postmaster_mailbox:



*/1 * * * * $HOME/bin/PostMasterMailbox.pl >> dev/null



*/5 * * * * $HOME/bin/PostMasterMailbox.pl >> dev/null



Could this be causing the problem?

How do I remove the latter entry?



Cheers

G.O.B.





From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of Gerrit 
Tamboer
Sent: 04 January 2010 17:46
To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
Subject: Re: [otrs] Postmaster Cron does not start after reboot



Check the cronjobs.



/opt/otrs/var/cron



To see if the cron is running:

crontab -u -l otrs



Good luck.




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        From: Gordon O'Brien [mailto:gordon.obr...@mediasquare.co.uk]
        To: Gordon O'Brien [mailto:gordon.obr...@mediasquare.co.uk], 
otrs@otrs.org
        Sent: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:40:03 +0100
        Subject: [otrs] Postmaster Cron does not start after reboot

        Hi



        I am running OTRS 2.4.5 on OpenSUSE 11.1



        I have a problem when the server is rebooted after updates. The 
Postmaster mail account will not fetch email from the configured POP3 account 
unless I click ?run now? or manually execute ./Cron sh start otrs



        Is there a way for this to automatically start after a reboot?



        Thanks.






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