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Today's Topics:
1. Re: List suggestion? (Mark D. Nagel)
2. Re: List suggestion? (David Eddleman)
3. How did it go today? (Jared Mauch)
4. Re: List suggestion? (Mike Bolitho)
5. Re: How did it go today? (Jeff Shultz)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 12:04:17 -0700
From: "Mark D. Nagel" <mna...@willingminds.com>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] List suggestion?
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On 10/7/2021 11:53 AM, Joey Kelly wrote:
> Repying/tagging on to my own post...
>
>
> Also, under the hood, there will be mismatches... one email thread on the main
> list, forking to any number of thread replies on the discussion list, and
> email clients as well as the generated archives will be littered with broken
> threads. Reading all of that during any substantial outage will be
> frustrating, to say the least.
I think anyone who intends to keep a thread on outages because they have
additional /useful /information to add would know how to change to the
To: line back to outages.? OTOH, this change stops all the chatter from
folks just hitting reply on the main list without losing the information
sent.
Mark
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:05:20 -0500
From: David Eddleman <david.eddle...@gmail.com>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] List suggestion?
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This is a lot of my feedback as well. You're depending upon the mail client
to actually accept and obey a reply-to. Also lots of people compulsively
hit reply-all as opposed to reply and thus you'll still get me-too
responses.
It's not a bad suggestion, just I think one that's not going to solve the
problem. A good step in the right direction.
David Eddleman
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joey Kelly <j...@joeykelly.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 1:39:35 PM CDT Joey Kelly wrote:
> >
> > snip
> >
> > So one little BGP outage and you want to change the reply target? ;-)
> >
> > But what of those that don't know they have to be subbed to both lists? I
> > think it'll cause more confusion than it's worth.
> >
> > $.02
> >
> > --Joey
>
> Repying/tagging on to my own post...
>
>
> Also, under the hood, there will be mismatches... one email thread on the
> main
> list, forking to any number of thread replies on the discussion list, and
> email clients as well as the generated archives will be littered with
> broken
> threads. Reading all of that during any substantial outage will be
> frustrating, to say the least.
>
> --Joey
>
>
>
> >
> > > > Just a thought.
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Andy Ringsmuth
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:08:31 -0400
From: Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net>
To: outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: [Outages-discussion] How did it go today?
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Did people see mail flow through fast enough?
Reply-to set to me.
- jared
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 12:14:14 -0700
From: Mike Bolitho <mikeboli...@gmail.com>
To: Joey Kelly <j...@joeykelly.net>
Cc: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] List suggestion?
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I am in agreement here. I would rather not push confirmations to a
different list. The problem with the Facebook outage was that it also
impacted this list. Typically you don't have that many me too messages.
Maybe 4 or 5. But because nobody else saw a confirmation, they were just
chiming in to confirm. Then when everything got unclogged, the backlog
inundated us. This was a one-off. I wouldn't change policy based on this
singular issue.
- Mike Bolitho
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021, 11:44 AM Joey Kelly <j...@joeykelly.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 1:33:06 PM CDT Eric Tykwinski wrote:
> > > May I offer a suggestion for Jared and anyone in charge of the Outages
> > > list?
> > >
> > > Could the outages list be set such that the ?reply to? would
> automatically
> > > be outages-discussion?
> > >
> > > I was thinking that would significantly cut down on the ?me too?
> > > responses.
> >
> > I would second that suggestion...
> >
> > Eric
>
> So one little BGP outage and you want to change the reply target? ;-)
>
> But what of those that don't know they have to be subbed to both lists? I
> think it'll cause more confusion than it's worth.
>
> $.02
>
> --Joey
>
> >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Andy Ringsmuth
> >
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>
> --
> Joey Kelly
> Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant
> http://joeykelly.net
> 504-239-6550
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 12:19:56 -0700
From: Jeff Shultz <jeffshu...@sctcweb.com>
To: Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net>
Cc: outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] How did it go today?
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When did you send this one? The DTG always looked current even on the ones
that were behind.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 12:11 PM Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> Did people see mail flow through fast enough?
>
>
> Reply-to set to me.
>
> - jared
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