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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [outages] Zscaler Cloud Down (Chris Burwell)
   2. Main list slow again (Andy Ringsmuth)
   3. Re: Main list slow again (Jared Mauch)
   4. Re: Main list slow again (Grant Taylor)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 06:09:13 -0400
From: Chris Burwell <cburw...@gmail.com>
To: Julian Panke <m...@julianpanke.com>
Cc: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] Zscaler Cloud Down
Message-ID: <72d8f3ef-691c-4c55-a46a-e69acb57e...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Any RCA or initial explanation from Zscaler?

> On Apr 6, 2022, at 04:10, Julian Panke via Outages <outa...@outages.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> ?Service recovered
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Am 6. Apr. 2022, 09:41, Julian Panke via Outages schrieb:
> 
> admin.zscloud.net does not resolve to A record.
> _______________________________________________
> Outages mailing list
> outa...@outages.org
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:52:02 -0500
From: Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com>
To: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: [Outages-discussion] Main list slow again
Message-ID: <db44f4ca-94f2-4d73-9798-7bc888617...@andyring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii

For anyone interested, it looks like there is still sluggishness inherent to 
the main outages@ list. A 10-minute delay, appears to be 
repeatable/reproducible. 

Noticed it when I sent a couple posts about a DNS outage at DreamHost. Here are 
some relevant headers that seem to indicate the hiccup being within 
puck.nether.net:


Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net. [204.42.254.5]) by 
mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 
j5-20020ac85c45000000b002eeb6daae5dsi2004320qtj.206.2022.04.21.18.20.16 for 
<a...@newslink.com> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 
bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Apr 2022 18:20:16 -0700 (PDT)

Received: from puck.nether.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with 
cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client 
certificate requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 
D7B75540091; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT)

Received: from butterfly.birch.relay.mailchannels.net 
(butterfly.birch.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.209.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with 
cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate 
requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D02FE540065 for 
<outa...@outages.org>; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:10:21 -0400 (EDT)

and second message:

Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]) (using TLSv1.3 
with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client 
certificate requested) by pdx1-sub0-mail-mx204.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with 
ESMTPS id 4KkzMM46jyz1fpR for <a...@andyring.com>; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 19:46:55 
-0700 (PDT)

Received: from puck.nether.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with 
cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client 
certificate requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 
3ABFD5400A6; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:45:30 -0400 (EDT)

Received: from cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net (cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net 
[23.83.212.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 
bits)) (No client certificate requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with 
ESMTPS id B1853540075 for <outa...@outages.org>; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:37:34 
-0400 (EDT)


----
Andy Ringsmuth
5609 Harding Drive
Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
(402) 202-1230
a...@andyring.com



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 23:04:58 -0400
From: Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net>
To: Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Main list slow again
Message-ID: <2db668a0-4623-473b-ac19-659c2d983...@puck.nether.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

I found two problems - 

1) systemd exists and wasn?t handling DNS properly so it was falling back
2) spamassassin was semi-wedged which was causing it to take longer for a few 
things, which I?m sure that #1 above didn?t help

Lets see if this one passes through faster.

- jared

> On Apr 21, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com> wrote:
> 
> For anyone interested, it looks like there is still sluggishness inherent to 
> the main outages@ list. A 10-minute delay, appears to be 
> repeatable/reproducible. 
> 
> Noticed it when I sent a couple posts about a DNS outage at DreamHost. Here 
> are some relevant headers that seem to indicate the hiccup being within 
> puck.nether.net:
> 
> 
> Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net. [204.42.254.5]) by 
> mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 
> j5-20020ac85c45000000b002eeb6daae5dsi2004320qtj.206.2022.04.21.18.20.16 for 
> <a...@newslink.com> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 
> bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Apr 2022 18:20:16 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Received: from puck.nether.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with 
> cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
> server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client 
> certificate requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 
> D7B75540091; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> Received: from butterfly.birch.relay.mailchannels.net 
> (butterfly.birch.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.209.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with 
> cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate 
> requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D02FE540065 for 
> <outa...@outages.org>; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:10:21 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> and second message:
> 
> Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]) (using 
> TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
> server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client 
> certificate requested) by pdx1-sub0-mail-mx204.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with 
> ESMTPS id 4KkzMM46jyz1fpR for <a...@andyring.com>; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 19:46:55 
> -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Received: from puck.nether.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with 
> cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 
> server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client 
> certificate requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 
> 3ABFD5400A6; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:45:30 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> Received: from cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net 
> (cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.212.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher 
> ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) 
> by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1853540075 for 
> <outa...@outages.org>; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:37:34 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> 
> ----
> Andy Ringsmuth
> 5609 Harding Drive
> Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
> (402) 202-1230
> a...@andyring.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Outages-discussion@outages.org
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:14:59 -0600
From: Grant Taylor <gtay...@tnetconsulting.net>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Main list slow again
Message-ID:
        <694a5c20-72e7-ca7e-c90f-5e6f56834...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

On 4/21/22 8:52 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
> For anyone interested, it looks like there is still sluggishness 
> inherent to the main outages@ list. A 10-minute delay, appears to 
> be repeatable/reproducible.

I don't know about puck.nether.net to Gmail, but the ~8 minute delay 
between Received: headers from puck.nether.net itself seems ... 
conspicuous to me.

Additional data:

The message that I'm replying to seems to have a much shorter delay:

Received: from puck.nether.net (localhost [IPv6:::1])
        ... by puck.nether.net ...
        Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:55:05 -0400 (EDT)

Received: from buffalo.ash.relay.mailchannels.net
        ... by puck.nether.net ...
        Thu, 21 Apr 2022 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT)



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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