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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Spectrum/Charter IPv6 connectivity to CloudFlare down in
      Texas (Mark Milhollan)
   2. Re: NTT - High Latency between Dallas and LA exchanges
      (Scott Wrosch)
   3. Re: NTT - High Latency between Dallas and LA exchanges
      (Ross Tajvar)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 11:49:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Milhollan <mlm+outages-li...@milhollan.com>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Spectrum/Charter IPv6 connectivity
        to CloudFlare down in Texas
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2023, Carl Perry wrote:

>I don't believe this is a CloudFlare issue, it's very much a Spectrum/Charter 
>issue.

The problem I had getting to the Dallas area via Spectrum IPv6 a few 
weeks ago was resolved.  It might be worth a few moments to double-check 
your native IPv6 service.


/mark


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 23:02:35 +0000
From: Scott Wrosch <sco...@rbogeek.com>
To: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] NTT - High Latency between Dallas
        and LA exchanges
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I?ve definitely been seeing issues in game, coming from the Detroit area.


tracert 204.2.29.90

Tracing route to 204.2.29.90 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms
  2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  3     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  23-117-52-1.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net 
[23.117.52.1]
  4     2 ms     5 ms    60 ms  71.151.213.64
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     9 ms     7 ms     7 ms  12.83.32.129
  7    13 ms    15 ms    15 ms  cgcil402igs.ip.att.net [12.122.133.161]
  8    51 ms    56 ms    60 ms  192.205.32.194
  9    59 ms    58 ms    61 ms  ae-4.r23.chcgil09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 
[129.250.4.239]
10    56 ms    56 ms    55 ms  ae-1.r24.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 
[129.250.5.17]
11   116 ms   110 ms   111 ms  ae-4.a00.scrmca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 
[129.250.7.57]
12   111 ms     *      111 ms  xe-0-0-5-0.a00.scrmca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net 
[128.241.2.18]
13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
14   110 ms     *      110 ms  204.2.29.90

Trace complete.

From: Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-boun...@outages.org> On Behalf Of 
Ross Tajvar via Outages-discussion
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1:44 PM
To: Cody Wilson <c...@codywilson.co>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] NTT - High Latency between Dallas and LA 
exchanges

This is a pretty vague problem report. Are the source/dest on-net with NTT or 
are one or both sides behind another carrier? What time(s) is this an issue - 
all the time or just certain times of day?

On Wed, May 17, 2023, 12:58 PM Cody Wilson via Outages-discussion 
<outages-discussion@outages.org<mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org>> wrote:
Hey folks -

For the past 3 days or so, there seems to be some high latency between the 
Dallas and LA exchanges of NTT. Specifically, it seems to be the hop between 
ae-1.r20.dllstx14.us.bb.gin.ntt.net<http://ae-1.r20.dllstx14.us.bb.gin.ntt.net> 
and 
ae-2.r24.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net<http://ae-2.r24.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net>,
 where there's observed latency increases of about 60-70 ms. This was raised to 
my attention through the Final Fantasy XIV community, where East Coast and 
Central US players are experiencing high jitter. Curious if this is affecting 
anyone else's traffic.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 19:07:29 -0400
From: Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io>
To: Scott Wrosch <sco...@rbogeek.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] NTT - High Latency between Dallas
        and LA exchanges
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This is congestion between NTT and AT&T, not an NTT internal issue. I've
run into this as well and NTT has let me know that AT&T is refusing to
upgrade their peering ports in places where there is congestion. I doubt
that contacting AT&T will be fruitful in persuading them to change their
mind, so my recommendation is to use another carrier to reach AT&T
customers.

On Wed, May 17, 2023, 7:03 PM Scott Wrosch via Outages-discussion <
outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:

> I?ve definitely been seeing issues in game, coming from the Detroit area.
>
>
>
>
>
> tracert 204.2.29.90
>
>
>
> Tracing route to 204.2.29.90 over a maximum of 30 hops
>
>
>
>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms
>
>   2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
>
>   3     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms
> 23-117-52-1.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [23.117.52.1]
>
>   4     2 ms     5 ms    60 ms  71.151.213.64
>
>   5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>
>   6     9 ms     7 ms     7 ms  12.83.32.129
>
>   7    13 ms    15 ms    15 ms  cgcil402igs.ip.att.net [12.122.133.161]
>
>   8    51 ms    56 ms    60 ms  192.205.32.194
>
>   9    59 ms    58 ms    61 ms  ae-4.r23.chcgil09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> [129.250.4.239]
>
> 10    56 ms    56 ms    55 ms  ae-1.r24.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> [129.250.5.17]
>
> 11   116 ms   110 ms   111 ms  ae-4.a00.scrmca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> [129.250.7.57]
>
> 12   111 ms     *      111 ms  xe-0-0-5-0.a00.scrmca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net
> [128.241.2.18]
>
> 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>
> 14   110 ms     *      110 ms  204.2.29.90
>
>
>
> Trace complete.
>
>
>
> *From:* Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-boun...@outages.org> *On
> Behalf Of *Ross Tajvar via Outages-discussion
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1:44 PM
> *To:* Cody Wilson <c...@codywilson.co>
> *Cc:* Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Outages-discussion] NTT - High Latency between Dallas and
> LA exchanges
>
>
>
> This is a pretty vague problem report. Are the source/dest on-net with NTT
> or are one or both sides behind another carrier? What time(s) is this an
> issue - all the time or just certain times of day?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2023, 12:58 PM Cody Wilson via Outages-discussion <
> outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>
> Hey folks -
>
> For the past 3 days or so, there seems to be some high latency between the
> Dallas and LA exchanges of NTT. Specifically, it seems to be the hop
> between ae-1.r20.dllstx14.us.bb.gin.ntt.net and
> ae-2.r24.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net, where there's observed latency
> increases of about 60-70 ms. This was raised to my attention through the
> Final Fantasy XIV community, where East Coast and Central US players are
> experiencing high jitter. Curious if this is affecting anyone else's
> traffic.
>
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