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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] 911 down in Nebraska (James Sharp)
   2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] 911 down in Nebraska
      (Jay R. Ashworth)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:59:08 -0700
From: James Sharp <ja...@fivecats.org>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] 911 down in
        Nebraska
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"We have diverse paths!? See, all the fiber goes out this conduit and 
then off to the diverse routes somewhere down the road!"

On 9/1/23 1:13 PM, Christopher Conley via Outages-discussion wrote:
>
> What?s ?Multiple diverse paths of network ingress?, Precious?
>
> --
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> Christopher Conley
>
> Systems Administrator |Fors Marsh
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> *From:* Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-boun...@outages.org> 
> *On Behalf Of *Frank Bulk via Outages-discussion
> *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 4:10 PM
> *To:* 'Andy Ringsmuth' <a...@andyring.com>; Outages Discussion 
> <outages-discussion@outages.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 down in 
> Nebraska
>
> Yes, and it looks like it was due a fiber cut:
>
> https://kscj.com/2023/09/01/cut-fiber-cable-caused-nebraska-9-1-1-outage/
>
> https://northplattepost.com/posts/98e24cc1-d213-4286-a116-2f726685e3c8
>
> https://www.ketv.com/article/douglas-county-emergency-services-down/44969008# 
> <https://www.ketv.com/article/douglas-county-emergency-services-down/44969008>
>
> Frank
>
> *From:* Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-boun...@outages.org> 
> *On Behalf Of *Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion
> *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 11:09 AM
> *To:* Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 down in Nebraska
>
> Anyone know if it?s back up yet? As a Nebraskan I?m doubly curious in 
> case I were to need to call. I haven?t seen it on any local media.
>
> ----
> Andy Ringsmuth
> 5609 Harding Drive
> Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
> (402) 202-1230
> a...@andyring.com
>
> ?A private central bank issuing the public currency is a greater 
> menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army. We must 
> not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.? -Thomas Jefferson
>
>     On Aug 31, 2023, at 10:26 PM, Daniel Marks via Outages
>     <outa...@outages.org> wrote:
>
>     ?Confirmed, someone on site tried to call 911 and it went to
>     voicemail. Hard to believe that in 2023 backup systems still
>     aren?t the norm.
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>         On Aug 31, 2023, at 23:08, Alex Vanino via Outages
>         <outa...@outages.org> wrote:
>
>         ?
>
>         My public safety sources are stating:
>         "it appears it is 3/4 of the state that has cut over to the
>         EsiNET with Lumen. The SE Region of the state has not cut over
>         yet and still using Windstream."
>
>         Will follow up with more information as it comes in.
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Alexander Vanino
>
>         
> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/ea408233/cxCIfn4sUkm7RcQOooXNtg?u=https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanino
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>             On 8/31/2023 10:57:47 PM, Ryan McGinnis via Outages
>             <outa...@outages.org> wrote:
>
>             Major 911?outage affecting multiple counties in Nebraska;
>             getting some info from people working EMS that it?s
>             statewide. ?Started roughly 50 minutes ago.
>
>             -Ryan McGinnis
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>             r...@digicana.com
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 22:34:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <j...@baylink.com>
To: James Sharp <ja...@fivecats.org>
Cc: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] 911 down in
        Nebraska
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Sharp via Outages-discussion" <outages-discussion@outages.org>

> "We have diverse paths! See, all the fiber goes out this conduit and then off 
> to
> the diverse routes somewhere down the road!"

It is effectively impossible these days to get, much less maintain, guaranteed
physical diversity on uplink connections because *someone's* policy is not to
release the data necessary to complete an audit of such paths to prove it.

Cheers,
-- jra
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