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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: It wasn't just AT&T; every carrier was
impacted. Why? (Daniel Marks)
2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: It wasn't just AT&T; every carrier was
impacted. Why? (Sean Harlow)
3. Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
(Michael B. Williams)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 12:19:26 -0500
From: Daniel Marks <daniel.ma...@maymobility.com>
To: "Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal)" <brad.chap...@nbcuni.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: It wasn't just AT&T;
every carrier was impacted. Why?
Message-ID: <a067d060-4c2b-4901-a5d4-0a71efb59...@maymobility.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
We have cellular uplinks scattered around the lower 48 and the only issues
we?ve seen are on AT&T.
> On Feb 22, 2024, at 12:02, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via
> Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, Andy. I must have emailed the outages-condescension listserv in
> error. My apologies.
>
> Does anyone else have an insight about why the outage affected every one?
> Was AT&T's infrastructure really the source of the disruption as Andy says?
> If so, does this highlight a potential problem of a private company having
> too much control over a critical piece of public infrastructure?
>
> ...or did the equipment upgrade at the 33 Thomas Street NSA listening outpost
> not go as planned? :-D
>
> ?Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:53?AM, Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion
>> <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:41?AM, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via
>>> Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Take a look at this scrolling screenshot the reports from Downdetector:
>>> every major carrier had some issue, with reports spiking around the same
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Link:
>>> "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://imgur.com/gallery/O3sm3qy__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!rv688OpWswUnLFdugjEzHYHhrlS2Omb0viPzs_V1eR15-dTlj2DMBGFbdnd9ZCzHvQWXZ5eTLtMUv_BAOi6YvfTmRfRxltw$&source=gmail-imap&ust=1709226217000000&usg=AOvVaw1CS-HV5J9PiQrfEsxms7HR
>>> "
>>>
>>> Someone commented on this post already about a "SIM Card database issue."
>>>
>>> Is that a credible explanation? If so, how and why?
>>>
>>> -Brad
>>
>> DownDetector is mostly garbage. It consists of 100% user-submitted reports.
>>
>> But the tech illiterate media has no clue, so they take it as gospel and run
>> with it.
>>
>> If you are a T-Mobile customer and calling your girlfriend or boss or
>> whomever and they are an AT&T customer, and it doesn?t go through, who do
>> you blame? T-Mobile of course. Even though they were not at fault.
>>
>> Also, how many of those MVNOs actually use AT&T?s infrastructure? Quite a
>> few.
>>
>> That?s what is going on with the other reports on DownDetector.
>>
>> Again, repeat after me: DownDetector is not an official source. DownDetector
>> is not an official source. DownDetector is not an official source.
>>
>>
>> -Andy
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 12:48:26 -0500
From: Sean Harlow <s...@seanharlow.info>
To: "Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal)" <brad.chap...@nbcuni.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: It wasn't just AT&T;
every carrier was impacted. Why?
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Another plausible explanation beyond Andy's suggestion of users having
trouble calling AT&T numbers and blaming their own carrier would be users
who are out of their primary carrier's coverage area and are unknowingly
roaming on to AT&T's infrastructure. That would fit with how it seems like
reports of issues with other carriers are more sporadic than those on AT&T
or their MVNOs.
That's just a guess from an outsider though, I have no idea how common
roaming is these days or whose customers can roam where.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:03?PM Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via
Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> I'm sorry, Andy. I must have emailed the outages-condescension listserv
> in error. My apologies.
>
> Does anyone else have an insight about why the outage affected every one?
> Was AT&T's infrastructure really the source of the disruption as Andy
> says? If so, does this highlight a potential problem of a private company
> having too much control over a critical piece of public infrastructure?
>
> ...or did the equipment upgrade at the 33 Thomas Street NSA listening
> outpost not go as planned? :-D
>
> ?Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:53?AM, Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion <
> outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> >> On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:41?AM, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via
> Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Take a look at this scrolling screenshot the reports from Downdetector:
> every major carrier had some issue, with reports spiking around the same
> time.
> >>
> >> Link: "
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://imgur.com/gallery/O3sm3qy__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!rv688OpWswUnLFdugjEzHYHhrlS2Omb0viPzs_V1eR15-dTlj2DMBGFbdnd9ZCzHvQWXZ5eTLtMUv_BAOi6YvfTmRfRxltw$
> "
> >>
> >> Someone commented on this post already about a "SIM Card database
> issue."
> >>
> >> Is that a credible explanation? If so, how and why?
> >>
> >> -Brad
> >
> > DownDetector is mostly garbage. It consists of 100% user-submitted
> reports.
> >
> > But the tech illiterate media has no clue, so they take it as gospel and
> run with it.
> >
> > If you are a T-Mobile customer and calling your girlfriend or boss or
> whomever and they are an AT&T customer, and it doesn?t go through, who do
> you blame? T-Mobile of course. Even though they were not at fault.
> >
> > Also, how many of those MVNOs actually use AT&T?s infrastructure? Quite
> a few.
> >
> > That?s what is going on with the other reports on DownDetector.
> >
> > Again, repeat after me: DownDetector is not an official source.
> DownDetector is not an official source. DownDetector is not an official
> source.
> >
> >
> > -Andy
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 20:10:55 +0000
From: "Michael B. Williams" <michael.willi...@glexia.com>
To: James Milko <jmi...@gmail.com>, Outages Discussion
<outages-discussion@outages.org>
Cc: "Lederer, Linda" <llede...@quakervalleyfoods.com>, mike tancsa
<m...@sentex.net>, outages <outa...@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT
cellular network 2024-02-22
Message-ID: <03ad1fda-cbcd-9ff8-8f81-525deaca0...@glexia.com>
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Per JM adding outages discussion. I did not realise they were omitted before.
Apologies.
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:05?AM James Milko <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is where someone pops in and reminds folks about -discuss.
>
>
> JM
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 2:52 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outa...@outages.org
> [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
>
>
> > If only it were that simple ? real Maple Syrup however would be awfully
> > expensive to use in large quantities to shield from solar flares?.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Linda Lederer
> >
> > IT DEPARTMENT
> >
> > ?
> >
> > A picture containing object Description generated with very high confidence
> > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]
> >
> > 2701 Red Lion Road
> >
> > Philadelphia, PA? 19154
> >
> > Office:? 215.992.0900
> >
> > Ext. 238
> >
> > ?
> >
> > facebook
> > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/youtube2
> > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQlinkedin
> > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods[data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the
> > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
> > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is
> > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender
> > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > ?
> >
> > From: Michael B. Williams <michael.willi...@glexia.com
> > [michael.willi...@glexia.com]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 2:45 PM
> > To: mike tancsa <m...@sentex.net [m...@sentex.net]>
> > Cc: Steele, John <john.ste...@ennis.k12.tx.us
> > [john.ste...@ennis.k12.tx.us]>; Lederer, Linda <llederer@quakervalleyfoods.
> > com [llede...@quakervalleyfoods.com]>; outages <outa...@outages.org
> > [outa...@outages.org]>
> > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Are you implying Maple Syrup protects against EMP? (Not financial advice)
> >
> > ?
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 6:44?AM mike tancsa via Outages <outa...@outages.org
> > [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> >
> > > We were not impacted in Canada as our abundant Maple Syrup and other
> > > shielding cliches provided protection from the storm.?
> > >
> > > ??? ---Mike
> > >
> > > On 2/22/2024 2:36 PM, Steele, John via Outages wrote:
> > >
> > > > That is bull. I'm a HAM and we have had R3's many times and nothing like
> > > > that happened.? She has no clue.
> > > >
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:01?PM Lederer, Linda via Outages
> > > > <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Haha neither do I but look at the source of that Tweet.
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Linda Lederer
> > > > >
> > > > > IT DEPARTMENT
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > A picture containing object Description generated with very high
> > > > > confidence
> > > > > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]
> > > > >
> > > > > 2701 Red Lion Road
> > > > >
> > > > > Philadelphia, PA? 19154
> > > > >
> > > > > Office:? 215.992.0900
> > > > >
> > > > > Ext. 238
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > facebook
> > > > > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/youtube2
> > > > > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQlinkedin
> > > > > [data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods[data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7]http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the
> > > > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
> > > > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution
> > > > > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact
> > > > > the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original
> > > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org
> > > > > [outages-boun...@outages.org]> On Behalf Of Jeff Martinez via Outages
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 1:45 PM
> > > > > To: Sterling Jaynes <sterling.jay...@mactexas.com
> > > > > [sterling.jay...@mactexas.com]>; Jim Harton <j...@cybersweat.shop>
> > > > > [j...@cybersweat.shop]; Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > > > [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]>
> > > > > Cc: outages <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279
> > > > > [https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279]
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don?t buy it!
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > JM
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org
> > > > > [outages-boun...@outages.org]> On Behalf Of Sterling Jaynes via
> > > > > Outages
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:29 PM
> > > > > To: Jim Harton <j...@cybersweat.shop [j...@cybersweat.shop]>; Josh
> > > > > Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]>
> > > > > Cc: outages <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time,
> > > > > where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network)
> > > > > was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their
> > > > > network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can?t
> > > > > register). But it cleared up quickly.
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who
> > > > > can?t contact AT&T users.
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sterling Jaynes
> > > > >
> > > > > Director of IT Operations
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org
> > > > > [outages-boun...@outages.org]> On Behalf Of Jim Harton via Outages
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:25 PM
> > > > > To: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > > > [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]>
> > > > > Cc: outages <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > ** This email was received outside the organization and contains one
> > > > > or more web links. Use caution when following links as they could open
> > > > > malicious web sites. **
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least
> > > > > locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting
> > > > > to call individuals on AT&T.? In two cases of individuals I talked to
> > > > > they had full voice and data.? I haven't seen any confirmation on
> > > > > other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they
> > > > > were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected.?
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Example from news:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its
> > > > > network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier.
> > > > >
> > > > > > T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an
> > > > > outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely
> > > > > reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Source:?https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-
> > > > > mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938
> > > > > [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938]
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44?AM Josh Luthman via Outages
> > > > > <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems
> > > > > > like speculation at this point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39?PM Owen DeLong via Outages
> > > > > > <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Modern phones don?t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge,
> > > > > > > using e-sims instead.?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case
> > > > > > > you need to work with a backwards carrier).?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I?ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and
> > > > > > > T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in
> > > > > > > the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely
> > > > > > > every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned).?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Owen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages
> > > > > > > > <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ? Agreed!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After reading through more lines of someone?s extremely
> > > > > > > > obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread,
> > > > > > > > it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with
> > > > > > > > this.?Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn?t
> > > > > > > > happen? but cell service?is a best effort offering and we cannot
> > > > > > > > control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof).?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If
> > > > > > > > your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a
> > > > > > > > second SIM on another carrier. Even if it?s just a cheap prepaid
> > > > > > > > SIM on an MVNO that doesn?t use the same underlying carrier?
> > > > > > > > It?s cheap insurance to keep you connected.?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages
> > > > > > > > > <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Remember.? This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained
> > > > > > > > > by humans.?????? At least for now?..? ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -richey
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org
> > > > > > > > > [outages-boun...@outages.org]> on behalf of Kenny Sallee via
> > > > > > > > > Outages <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: Lederer, Linda <llede...@quakervalleyfoods.com
> > > > > > > > > [llede...@quakervalleyfoods.com]>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: outages <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network
> > > > > > > > > 2024-02-22
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware,
> > > > > > > > > and software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods.?
> > > > > > > > > Either the business pays for it before it's needed or they
> > > > > > > > > lose money or productivity that affects the bottom line.? It's
> > > > > > > > > a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business is OK with
> > > > > > > > > outages we do not need backup/redundancy.? But if we are out
> > > > > > > > > for x hours it will cost y dollars.? What's your business
> > > > > > > > > decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages?
> > > > > > > > > Redundancy is not necessarily a technical issue; it is a
> > > > > > > > > business issue.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ;)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38?AM Lederer, Linda via Outages
> > > > > > > > > <outa...@outages.org [outa...@outages.org]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses
> > > > > > > > > > ATT ? so this has been lovely?.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Linda Lederer
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > IT DEPARTMENT
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> > > > > > > > > > 2701 Red Lion Road
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Philadelphia, PA? 19154
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Office:? 215.992.0900
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ext. 238
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <image003.png>
> > > > > > > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQ]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <image004.png>
> > > > > > > > > > [https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <image005.png> [http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/]
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org
> > > > > > > > > > [outages-boun...@outages.org]> On Behalf Of Begarowicz,
> > > > > > > > > > Shawn via Outages
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:13 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Rob Repp <robr...@winnetka36.org
> > > > > > > > > > [robr...@winnetka36.org]>; Jeremy Gault (KD4NED)
> > > > > > > > > > <jer...@gault.us [jer...@gault.us]>
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> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network
> > > > > > > > > > 2024-02-22
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping
> > > > > > > > > > with all of them? just not at the same time..? ?I agree cant
> > > > > > > > > > wait to see the post mortem?
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > From: Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org
> > > > > > > > > > [outages-boun...@outages.org]> on behalf of Jeremy Gault
> > > > > > > > > > (KD4NED) via Outages <outa...@outages.org
> > > > > > > > > > [outa...@outages.org]>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:09 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Rob Repp <robr...@winnetka36.org
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> > > > > > > > > > Cc: OUTAGES Mailing List <outa...@outages.org
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> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] ATT cellular network
> > > > > > > > > > 2024-02-22
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> > > > > > > > > > One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas,
> > > > > > > > > > it doesn?t appear to be all customers affected. For example,
> > > > > > > > > > my phone and tablet have no service, but my watch will
> > > > > > > > > > connect to LTE just fine and place and receive calls.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have
> > > > > > > > > > full 5G service on AT&T. I?ve also seen other reports of
> > > > > > > > > > multiple AT&T phones sitting next to each other, some of
> > > > > > > > > > them working perfectly fine, and others having no service at
> > > > > > > > > > all.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I?d love to see the postmortem on this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jeremy
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