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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Outages lists configuration thoughts (Josh Luthman)
2. Re: Outages lists configuration thoughts (Tim Burke)
3. Re: Outages lists configuration thoughts (Jeff Shultz)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 10:37:37 -0500
From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Outages lists configuration thoughts
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Stop giving the children attention. That's exactly what they want!!!
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:36?AM Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion <
outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> Apparently someone on this list either didn?t like my
> suggestion/discussion thoughts or carries personal animus towards me.
>
>
>
>
> Come on, people. Lets be adults here. If you?ve got a problem with me, be
> an adult and reach out to me off-list. Don?t be a child and take it upon
> yourself to try and unsubscribe me.
>
>
> -Andy
>
>
> > On Feb 23, 2024, at 9:22?AM, Russell Zen <russell...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > General reply (not to Gert but just in general)
> >
> > "lol"
> >
> > If you know you know
> >
> > On Feb 23, 2024 8:10 AM, Gert Doering via Outages-discussion <
> outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 08:53:15AM -0600, Andy Ringsmuth via
> Outages-discussion wrote:
> > > Having said that, can we PLEASE consider setting the ???Reply To:???
> default for the outages list to be outages-discussion? That is definitely
> an option within the Mailman list configuration.
> >
> > Generally I do not like Reply-To: on lists (because I inevitably send
> > replies to the list when I want to reply off-list) but in this case it
> > seems useful.
> >
> > On the "5 lines posted on top of a full top quote of a digest" topic,
> > not sure this sort of human carelessness is solvable in a technical
> manner.
> >
> > gert
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:50:13 +0000
From: Tim Burke <t...@mid.net>
To: Shaun Potts <shaun.m.po...@gmail.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Outages lists configuration thoughts
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As a semi-lurker as well, IMHO the hilariously long signatures are either
caused by someone being too lazy to remove it from their response, or what I
consider a perceived feeling of over importance... if I were bonkers enough to
have a 48 line signature, I still wouldn't want my entire email signature,
including cell phone, direct line, direct fax, mailing address, blood type, and
mother's maiden name on a sesame seed bun to go out to thousands of people...
but I don't think Mailman has a fix for that. ?
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From: Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-boun...@outages.org> on behalf of
Shaun Potts via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 9:06 AM
To: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Outages lists configuration thoughts
Hopefully I'm not out of place here, but I want to just say as a 99% lurker and
observer that the most obnoxious thing about reading all the back and forth
here is people sending 5 word emails with 83 lines of signature. Can we trim
that off or something?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:59?AM Josh Luthman via Outages-discussion
<outages-discussion@outages.org<mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org>> wrote:
Myself and others feel like these posts end up generating way more noise than
just letting it go. I'm not sure why it's so hard to just swipe right rather
than get frustrated with it. I don't think anything outages@ is urgent enough
to put it on mute or something?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:53?AM Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion
<outages-discussion@outages.org<mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org>> wrote:
Good morning all,
Yesterday?s AT&T flub again showed the need for us all to be much more
deliberate about how we use the outages and outages-discussion lists.
I?m not sure off the top of my head who is responsible for the overall setup on
these lists, or I?d reach out to that person/people directly.
Having said that, can we PLEASE consider setting the ?Reply To:? default for
the outages list to be outages-discussion? That is definitely an option within
the Mailman list configuration.
That would eliminate an insane number of extraneous (and very very long)
messages for those of us who use the outages list as a notification source for
immediate attention, which I believe to be the intent of that list. I?m looking
at one message posted to outages yesterday that was a reply to a reply to a
reply to a reply to a digest message. 513 lines of text!
Thank you for the consideration.
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Andy Ringsmuth
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Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 08:21:54 -0800
From: Jeff Shultz <jeffshu...@sctcweb.com>
To: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Outages lists configuration thoughts
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:50?AM Tim Burke via Outages-discussion <
outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> As a semi-lurker as well, IMHO the hilariously long signatures are either
> caused by someone being too lazy to remove it from their response, or what
> I consider a perceived feeling of over importance... if I were bonkers
> enough to have a 48 line signature, I still wouldn't want my entire email
> signature, including cell phone, direct line, direct fax, mailing address,
> blood type, and mother's maiden name on a sesame seed bun to go out to
> thousands of people... but I don't think Mailman has a fix for that. ?
> ------------------------------
>
> I think it got kind of stupid when I got one reply with six little (if up
to 50k or so is little) graphics attached, two different logos for the same
company, three social networking, and one for the person responding to the
message with the original five in it.
I'm in favor of turning off attachments - and advising someone that the
last thing I'm going to do in this phish eat phish world is click on a
social network graphic in a signature line.
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Jeff Shultz
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SCTC
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