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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Who broke the Internet? 2024-03-05 edition. (Jay Ashworth)
2. Re: [outages] REMINDER: MAIN LIST NOT FOR CHAT (Andy Ringsmuth)
3. Re: [outages] REMINDER: MAIN LIST NOT FOR CHAT (Jay Ashworth)
4. Re: [outages] REMINDER: MAIN LIST NOT FOR CHAT (Jim P.)
5. Re: [outages] After-Action Report: Facebook/Meta outage
(Peter van Dijk)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 11:39:13 -0500
From: Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com>
To: Ivan Ip <ivan...@toughlife.info>
Cc: Chris Adams <c...@cmadams.net>, Chris Adams via Outages-discussion
<outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Who broke the Internet? 2024-03-05
edition.
Message-ID: <a826ec22-9947-40da-9daa-e4adc4004...@baylink.com>
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Smartarse. ;-)
Yes, recovery started roughly 10 minutes ago, I am logged back in, and the
trend of reports on both lists has gone from it's gone! to it's back!
It made both my local television news is website and the associated press, so
you can tell it was a big outage. :-)
On March 5, 2024 11:37:19 AM EST, Ivan Ip <ivan...@toughlife.info> wrote:
>Hi Jay,
>
>Any updates? ;)
>
>On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 4:14?PM Jay Ashworth via Outages-discussion <
>outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>
>> I have a reliable inside report that nobody at Meta thinks this is Network
>> layer.
>>
>>
>> On March 5, 2024 11:08:51 AM EST, Chris Adams via Outages-discussion <
>> outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Once upon a time, Edward Vielmetti <evielme...@equinix.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Down detector is showing elevated problems across Facebook/Meta
>>>> properties, Google properties, T-Mobile, Discord, Tik Tok ? with no
>>>> obvious single cause that I have seen reported. Any ideas? Ed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Example #427 why downdetector is not terribly useful other than a rough
>>> indicator. STOP TAKING IT AS FACT!
>>>
>>> --
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>
>--
>Yours sincerely,
>Ivan Ip
>Pantry Manager at Toughlife
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 10:46:42 -0600
From: Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com>
To: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org>, "Jay R.
Ashworth" <j...@baylink.com>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] REMINDER: MAIN LIST NOT
FOR CHAT
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Seconded.
Or ?firsted? maybe since I?m the one who tossed the idea out there?
As usual, one initial report followed by more than a dozen ?me too? reports.
Sigh...
----
Andy Ringsmuth
5609 Harding Drive
Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
(402) 202-1230
a...@andyring.com
> On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:21?AM, Carl Perry via Outages-discussion
> <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>
> I'd like to re-raise the proposal from a few weeks ago that the default
> reply-to for the outages list be outages-discussion. I think this is the only
> way to stem this tide since it's been going on for weeks.
> -Carl
> On 3/5/24 16:11, Jay Ashworth via Outages wrote:
>> The only other messages we should see on the main list are "it's back now".
>> Please take the discussions over to -discuss.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jr '<admin/>' a
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 11:48:46 -0500
From: Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com>
To: Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com>, Outages Discussion
<outages-discussion@outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] REMINDER: MAIN LIST NOT
FOR CHAT
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Well, to Bill Woodcock's credit, his was the first message I saw this morning,
and he started it on -discuss, so..
We will be talking about this this week. The real problem I see with it is that
since so many more people are subscribed to the main list, it may generate a
whole bunch of messages to discuss from people who are not subscribed to that
list, and I'm not certain what The Sorcerer's Apprentice effects of that might
be.
I need to talk to Jared about that point. He knows mailman much better than I
do.
On March 5, 2024 11:46:42 AM EST, Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com> wrote:
>Seconded.
>
>Or ?firsted? maybe since I?m the one who tossed the idea out there?
>
>As usual, one initial report followed by more than a dozen ?me too? reports.
>Sigh...
>
>----
>Andy Ringsmuth
>5609 Harding Drive
>Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
>(402) 202-1230
>a...@andyring.com
>
>> On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:21?AM, Carl Perry via Outages-discussion
>> <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to re-raise the proposal from a few weeks ago that the default
>> reply-to for the outages list be outages-discussion. I think this is the
>> only way to stem this tide since it's been going on for weeks.
>> -Carl
>> On 3/5/24 16:11, Jay Ashworth via Outages wrote:
>>> The only other messages we should see on the main list are "it's back now".
>>> Please take the discussions over to -discuss.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -- jr '<admin/>' a
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 12:34:52 -0500
From: "Jim P." <jim...@domainmail.org>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] REMINDER: MAIN LIST NOT
FOR CHAT
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On Tue, 2024-03-05 at 16:21 +0000, Carl Perry via Outages-discussion
wrote:
> I'd like to re-raise the proposal from a few weeks ago that the
> default reply-to for the outages list be outages-discussion. I think
> this is the only way to stem this tide since it's been going on for
> weeks.
>
>
"weeks"?! You must be new here :)
This has been happening for almost 1 decade now....
-Jim P.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 20:17:52 +0100
From: Peter van Dijk <peter.van.d...@powerdns.com>
To: outages-discussion@outages.org
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] After-Action Report:
Facebook/Meta outage
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It does appear to be from 2010 -
https://engineering.fb.com/2010/09/23/uncategorized/more-details-on-today-s-outage/
On Tue, 2024-03-05 at 19:12 +0000, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages wrote:
> Well, it seems equivocal whether that's about *this* outage
> rather than an earlier one -- though it's clearly not from 2010.
>
> More to follow.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay R. Ashworth via Outages" <outa...@outages.org>
> > To: outa...@outages.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 1:57:24 PM
> > Subject: [outages] After-Action Report: Facebook/Meta outage
>
> > [ I can't set the header from Zimbra, but please, Reply-To: -discuss ]
> >
> > Here's a link to FB's AAR about this morning's 70-minuteish outage.
> >
> > It's been pointed out to me that this affected other services as well, if
> > they are an OAuth client, and you chose to use FB's OAuth service to create
> > your account there.
> >
> > https://m.facebook.com/nt/screen/?params=%7B%22note_id%22%3A10158791436142200%7D&path=%2Fnotes%2Fnote%2F
> >
> > [ Hat-tip: Jorge Amodio ]
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> >
> > --
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