Changing from fire suite to admin hat after this morning's event due to hosted 
services going dark. 

My salute to Dyn team, we all know this is a thankless job for the folks on the 
frontline. 

Anyway yes that's correct, typically conversation does shift to 
outages-discussion not much direction needed here but just asserting. 

Anyway, shifting hats and getting off the channel.

73,
/vrode

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Dj Padzensky via Outages <outages@outages.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting though it may be, it's probably a topic better pursued on 
> outages-discussion. My understanding is that outages is really supposed to be 
> limited to what's down, according to whom, impact, ETR, etc.
> 
> Can we get a mod to weigh in?
> 
> --Dj
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Russell Zen via Outages <outages@outages.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> IMO it's important to factor in the business aspect into our IT work in 
>> networking. Then again I came from accounting before IT so I sort of see 
>> things in scope of dollars anyway. I appreciate the dialogue.
>> 
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>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:39 AM -0700, "Mike Davis via Outages" 
>> <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Weird... I thought I was subscribed to a mailing list about outages, not 
>> pricing debates and pee contests.....    I'll have to evaluate my account 
>> settings.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Mike Lieman via Outages 
>>> <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>> The strangest thing was that while our premium Managed DNS ( Dynect ) 
>>> domains were having issues, the 40 dollar ones I use for my own personal 
>>> stuff were rock solid.   Guess that layer isn't high profile enough or 
>>> something?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Jim Popovitch via Outages 
>>>> <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore via Outages
>>>> <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>>> > Let’s all be clear that Dyn has to be in the top 10 DNS infrastructures 
>>>> > on
>>>> > the planet. Possibly the largest that sells DNS as a service.
>>>> 
>>>> Which part of Dyn?  IIRC, there are multiple layers, and the cheaper
>>>> layer(s) weren't anycast and only in 5 locations on single IPs.
>>>> That's not saying that Dyn is bad, but some people like to tout them
>>>> as the end-all-be-all at $40/yr.... so as with anything you get what
>>>> you pay for.
>>>> 
>>>> -Jim P.
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