On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:19 AM Daniel Alvarez Sanchez <dalva...@redhat.com>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:22 AM Han Zhou <hz...@ovn.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 8:52 AM Daniel Alvarez <dalva...@redhat.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > ovs-ctl started to add the hostname as external-id [0] at some point.
> > >
> > > However, this can be problematic as if it's already set by an external
> > > entity it will get overwritten. In RHEL systems, systemd will invoke
> > > ovs-ctl to start OVS and that will overwrite it to the hostname of the
> > > machine.
> > >
> > > For OVN this can have a big impact because if, for whatever reason the
> > > hostname changes and the host gets restarted, ovn-controller won't
> > > claim the ports back leaving the workloads unaccessible.
> > >
> > > Also, it makes sense to leave this untouched as 1) it's an
external_id,
> > > so it will actually let external entities to configure it (unlike
now),
> > > and 2) it's optional. In the case of OVN, if the external-id doesn't
> > > exist, it'll default to its hostname so nothing should get broken by
> > > this change.
> > >
> > > [0]
https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2016-March/312054.html
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Daniel Alvarez <dalva...@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  utilities/ovs-ctl.in | 12 ------------
> > >  1 file changed, 12 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/utilities/ovs-ctl.in b/utilities/ovs-ctl.in
> > > index 8c5cd7032..87fc4934f 100644
> > > --- a/utilities/ovs-ctl.in
> > > +++ b/utilities/ovs-ctl.in
> > > @@ -35,17 +35,6 @@ insert_mod_if_required () {
> > >      ovs_kmod_ctl insert
> > >  }
> > >
> > > -set_hostname () {
> > > -    # 'hostname -f' needs network connectivity to work.  So we should
> > > -    # call this only after ovs-vswitchd is running.
> > > -    if test X$FULL_HOSTNAME = Xyes; then
> > > -        hn="$(hostname -f)" || hn="$(uname -n)"
> > > -    else
> > > -        hn="$(uname -n)"
> > > -    fi
> > > -    ovs_vsctl set Open_vSwitch . external-ids:hostname="$hn"
> > > -}
> > > -
> > >  set_system_ids () {
> > >      set ovs_vsctl set Open_vSwitch .
> > >
> > > @@ -225,7 +214,6 @@ start_forwarding () {
> > >      if test X"$OVS_VSWITCHD" = Xyes; then
> > >          do_start_forwarding || return 1
> > >      fi
> > > -    set_hostname &
> > >      return 0
> > >  }
> > >
> > > --
> > >
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> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > I believe there are OpenStack based OVN users already depends on this.
(And we had also add the --no-full-hostname option so that it will set the
short name, so that it matches with openstack's "requested-chassis" setting
which uses nova compute node name.) For the scenarios that this behavior is
not desired, I think it is better to add a new option to override it, such
as "--no-hostname", so that existing environment won't get impacted. What
do you think?
>
> Hi Han, thanks a lot for your feedback!
> I thought of adding a --no-hostname option. However I still see that
> this patch has value. Let me try to explain.
>
> Existing OpenStack deployments will have their 'requested-chassis' set
> to the current name of the hosts at the time the VMs were created.
> This hostname may or may not match the machine hostname as it's a
> string consumed from the external_ids, hence external and expected to
> be set by CMS (for example, it's configurable by puppet at OpenStack
> deployment time).
> Now let's imagine you restart one node so ovs-ctl will overwrite
> whatever the CMS relied upon and set it to the machine hostname. From
> this time on, the workloads on that VM will not be claimed by OVN and
> are left inaccessible until manual intervention happens.
>
> I think it's fundamentally wrong for OVS (ovs-ctl in this case) to set
> an external id itself as its default behavior (as they're meant for
> external entities IIUC). Can you please elaborate on how existing
> environments can get impacted by this change? Also keep in mind that
> if the external_id is not set, ovn-controller is taking the hostname
> of the machine as the default [0]. I might be overlooking something,
> for sure.
>
> Thanks again!
> Daniel
>
> [0] https://github.com/ovn-org/ovn/blob/master/controller/chassis.c#L133
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Han
>

Hi Daniel, I understand the problem scenario you mentioned, and I agree
maybe it wasn't a good idea to add the external-ids:hostname by default. My
only concern is that it is already there and deployment may depend on it.
For example, if it is removed, a new HV onboarding will have no hostname,
and the --no-full-hostname setting doesn't take any effect anymore, so as
you mentioned the default behavior is to get the hostname by
ovn-controller. Since ovn-controller has no idea is the short or long name
should be used, it may be just the long name, which doesn't match with the
OpenStack nova convention that uses short name as the compute node name,
which is used as "requested-chassis" for the logical switch ports by
networking-ovn.

Maybe it is very rare situation that would get impacted by this change, so
I don't have any strong objection of removing it completely, but just to
point out that possible impact. If you believe removing it is the right
way, please also remove the --no-full-hostname option.

Thanks,
Han
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