Hi Dumitru,

are you talking about any specific _mising_ patch?

Regards,
Vladislav Odintsov

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 19:09, Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 9/16/21 4:18 PM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>> Sorry, by OOT I meant non-inbox kmod.
>> I’ve tried to use inbox kernel module (from kernel package) and problem 
>> resolved.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Vladislav Odintsov
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 17:17, Vladislav Odintsov <odiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dumitru,
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried to exclude OOT OVS kernel module.
>>> With OVN 20.06.3 + OVS 2.13.4 the problem solved.
>>> 
>>> Could you please try with OOT kmod? For me it looks like a bug in OOT OVS 
>>> kernel module code.
> 
> You're right, this seems to be a missing patch in the OOT openvswitch
> module.  I could replicate the problem you reported with the OOT module.
> 
> Regards,
> Dumitru
> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 11:02, Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com 
>>>> <mailto:dce...@redhat.com> <mailto:dce...@redhat.com 
>>>> <mailto:dce...@redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/16/21 2:50 AM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dumitru,
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks for your reply.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 11:24, Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Vladislav,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/13/21 6:14 PM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Numan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve checked with OVS 2.16.0 and OVN master. The problem persists.
>>>>>>> Symptoms are the same.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> # grep ct_zero_snat /var/log/openvswitch/ovs-vswitchd.log
>>>>>>> 2021-09-13T16:10:01.792Z|00019|ofproto_dpif|INFO|system@ovs-system: 
>>>>>>> Datapath supports ct_zero_snat
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This shouldn't be related to the problem we fixed with ct_zero_snat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 Sep 2021, at 17:54, Numan Siddique <num...@ovn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:10 AM Vladislav Odintsov <odiv...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:odiv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> we’ve encountered a next problem with stateful ACLs.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Suppose, we have one logical switch (ls1) and attached to it a VIF 
>>>>>>>>> type logical ports (lsp1, lsp2).
>>>>>>>>> Each logical port has a linux VM besides it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Logical ports reside in port group (pg1) and two ACLs are created 
>>>>>>>>> within this PG:
>>>>>>>>> to-lport outport == @pg1 && ip4 && ip4.dst == 0.0.0.0/0 allow-related
>>>>>>>>> from-lport outport == @pg1 && ip4 && ip4.src == 0.0.0.0/0 
>>>>>>>>> allow-related
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When we have a high-connection rate service between VMs, the tcp 
>>>>>>>>> source/dest ports may be reused before the connection is deleted from 
>>>>>>>>> LSP’s-related conntrack zones on the host.
>>>>>>>>> Let’s use curl with passing --local-port argument to have each time 
>>>>>>>>> same source port.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Run it from VM to another VM (172.31.0.18 -> 172.31.0.17):
>>>>>>>>> curl --local-port 44444 http://172.31.0.17/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Check connections in client’s and server’s vif zones (client - 
>>>>>>>>> zone=20, server - zone=1):
>>>>>>>>> run while true script to check connections state per-second, while 
>>>>>>>>> running new connection with same source/dest 5-tuple:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> while true; do date; grep -e 'zone=1 ' -e zone=20 
>>>>>>>>> /proc/net/nf_conntrack; sleep 0.2; done
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Right after we’ve succesfully run curl, the connection is getting 
>>>>>>>>> time-closed and next time-wait states:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:39 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:39 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And it remains in time-wait state for nf_conntrack_time_wait_timeout 
>>>>>>>>> (120 seconds for centos 7).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Everything is okay for now.
>>>>>>>>> While we have installed connections in TW state in zone 1 and 20, 
>>>>>>>>> lets run this curl (source port 44444) again:
>>>>>>>>> 1st SYN packet is lost. It didn’t get to destination VM. In conntrack 
>>>>>>>>> we have:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:41 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 118 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We see that TW connection was dropped in source vif’s zone (20).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Next, after one second TCP sends retry and connection in destination 
>>>>>>>>> (server’s) zone is dropped and a new connection is created in source 
>>>>>>>>> zone (client’s):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:41 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 120 SYN_SENT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 [UNREPLIED] src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 
>>>>>>>>> sport=80 dport=44444 mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Server VM still didn’t get this SYN packet. It got dropped.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Then, after 2 seconds TCP sends retry again and connection is working 
>>>>>>>>> well:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:44 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:44 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I guess, that it could happen:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Run curl with an empty conntrack zones. Everything is good, we’ve 
>>>>>>>>> got http response, closed the connection. There’s one TW entry in 
>>>>>>>>> client’s and one in server’s zonntrack zones.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Run curl with same source port within 
>>>>>>>>> nf_conntrack_time_wait_timeout seconds.
>>>>>>>>> 2.1. OVS gets packet from VM, sends it to client’s conntrack zone=20. 
>>>>>>>>> It matches pre-existed conntrack entry in tw state from previous curl 
>>>>>>>>> run. TW connection in conntrack is deleted. A copy of a packet is 
>>>>>>>>> returned to OVS and recirculated packet has ct.inv (?) and !ct.trk 
>>>>>>>>> states and got dropped (I’m NOT sure, it’s just an assumption!)
>>>>>>>>> 3. After one second client VM resends TCP SYN.
>>>>>>>>> 3.1. OVS gets packet, sends through client’s conntrack zone=20, a new 
>>>>>>>>> connection is added, packet has ct.trk and ct.new states set. Packet 
>>>>>>>>> goes to recirculation.
>>>>>>>>> 3.2. OVS sends packet to server’s conntrack zone=1. It matches 
>>>>>>>>> pre-existed conntrack entry in tw state from previous run. Conntrack 
>>>>>>>>> removes this entry. Packet is returned to OVS with ct.inv (?) and 
>>>>>>>>> !ct.trk. Packet got dropped.
>>>>>>>>> 4. Client’s VM again sends TCP SYN after 2 more seconds left.
>>>>>>>>> 4.1 OVS gets packet from client’s VIF, sends to client’s conntrack 
>>>>>>>>> zone=20, it matches pre-existed SYN_SENT conntrack entry state, 
>>>>>>>>> packets is returned to OVS with ct.new, ct.trk flags set.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4.2 OVS sends packet to server’s conntrack zone=1. Conntrack table 
>>>>>>>>> for zone=1 is empty, it adds new entry, returns packet to OVS with 
>>>>>>>>> ct.trk and ct.new flags set.
>>>>>>>>> 4.3 OVS sends packet to server’s VIF, next traffic operates normally.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So, with such behaviour connection establishment sometimes takes up 
>>>>>>>>> to three seconds (2 TCP SYN retries) and makes troubles in overlay 
>>>>>>>>> services. (Application timeouts and service outages).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’ve checked how conntrack works inside VMs with such traffic and it 
>>>>>>>>> looks like if conntrack gets a packet within a TW connection it 
>>>>>>>>> recreates a new conntrack entry. No tuning inside VMs was performed. 
>>>>>>>>> As a server I used apache with default config from CentOS 
>>>>>>>>> distribution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have a centos 7 at hand but I do have a rhel 7
>>>>>> (3.10.0-1160.36.2.el7.x86_64) and I didn't manage to hit the issue you
>>>>>> reported here (using OVS and OVN upstream master).  The SYN matching the
>>>>>> conntrack entry in state TIME_WAIT moves the entry to NEW and seems to
>>>>>> be forwarded just fine, the session afterwards go to ESTABLISHED.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:35 AM EDT 2021
>>>>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>>>>> tcp      6 431930 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>>>>> tcp      6 431930 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:36 AM EDT 2021
>>>>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>>>>> tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>>>>> tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:38 AM EDT 2021
>>>>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>>>>> tcp      6 431999 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>>>>> tcp      6 431999 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> DP flows just after the second session is initiated also seem to confirm
>>>>>> that everything is fine:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> # ovs-appctl dpctl/dump-flows | grep -oE "ct_state(.*),ct_label"
>>>>>> ct_state(+new-est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>> ct_state(+new-est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also tried it out on a Fedora 34 with 5.13.14-200.fc34.x86_64, still
>>>>>> works fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What kernel and openvswitch module versions do you use?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> On my box there is CentOS 7.5 with kernel 3.10.0-862.14.4.el7 and OOT 
>>>>> kernel module.
>>>>> I’ve tested two versions, in both the problem was hit:
>>>>> openvswitch-kmod-2.13.4-1.el7_5.x86_64
>>>>> openvswitch-kmod-2.16.0-1.el7_5.x86_64
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think the problem could be related to kernel (conntrack) and 
>>>>> kernel must be upgraded here?
>>>>> Or, maybe I should try master OVS, as you did?
>>>> 
>>>> I just tried with OVS v2.13.4, OVN master and it all worked fine (both
>>>> on Fedora 34 and rhel 7).  I don't think the problem is in user space.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dumitru
>>>> 
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