Hi Vladislav,

After quite some time trying to implement the IDL API change to allow
setting a different default monitor condition and mostly struggling with
ovn-controller using that properly I kind of gave up and decided to
approach this in a different way.

We have guidelines about supported upgrade scenarios [0] so we can use
the same guidelines for defining which tables ovn-controller is entitled
to assume exist in the SB (without having to check).

I ended up with:
https://github.com/dceara/ovn/commit/f5e8b9bcba61a2528b67854bb4211981a99feaa8

I know it's not perfect but it might be the least risky and a good
enough solution.

It would be great if you could try it out on your data set too.

Thanks,
Dumitru

[0]
https://github.com/ovn-org/ovn/blob/5a1d82cb28c554276e0c17718f808b8f244cb162/Documentation/intro/install/ovn-upgrades.rst?plain=1#L28

On 7/25/23 10:19, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
> Many thanks for the information!
> 
>> On 25 Jul 2023, at 11:14, Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 7/24/23 21:10, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>> Hi Dumitru,
>>>
>>
>> Hi Vladislav,
>>
>>> I just wanted to ask wether you need any help (maybe, testing) in this?
>>> I’m ready to check this on my dataset if you were successful to
>>> implement a fix.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for offering to help.  I didn't get the chance to properly write
>> and test the patches for this (we need a change in OVS IDL first and
>> then one in OVN).  It would be great if you could try them out on your
>> data sets so I'll CC you on the patches when posting them.  I hope to do
>> that this week.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dumitru
>>
>>>> On 12 Jul 2023, at 12:15, Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 7/12/23 00:01, Ilya Maximets wrote:
>>>>> On 7/11/23 19:01, Dumitru Ceara wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/11/23 18:33, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Dumitru,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The system on which I reproduced this issue is running 22.09.x
>>>>>>> version. I’ve tried to upgrade ovn-controller to main branch + your
>>>>>>> patch. Please, note that it has test error: [1].
>>>>>>> After two minutes after upgrade it still consumed 3.3G.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ack, I need to re-think the patch then.  Maybe a hard deadline to run
>>>>>> malloc_trim() at least once every X seconds.  I'll see what I can come
>>>>>> up with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried to backport your patch to 22.09, it required to backport
>>>>>>> also this commit: [2] and it failed some tests: [3].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I’ve got general question: prior to commit that I mentioned in
>>>>>>> initial mail, ovn-controller even didn’t try load such amount of
>>>>>>> data. And now it does and IIUC, your patch just releases memory
>>>>>>> that was freed after ovn-controller fully loaded.
>>>>>>> I’m wonder wether it should load that excess data at all? Seems
>>>>>>> like it did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking again at 1b0dbde94070 ("ovn-controller: Only set monitor
>>>>>> conditions on available tables.") it's kind of expected indeed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Initially all tables are "unavailable" because we didn't get the schema
>>>>>> so we don't set any condition for any table.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After ovn-controller connects to the SB for the first time it will
>>>>>> determine that the SB tables are in the schema so it will explicitly add
>>>>>> them to the monitor condition and restrict the SB data it is
>>>>>> interested in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we need to change the IDL/CS modules to wait with the
>>>>>> monitor_cond/monitor_cond_since until instructed by the client
>>>>>> (ovn-controller).  Ilya do you have any thoughts on this matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> So, AFAICT, the issue is that we're running with
>>>>> 'monitor_everything_by_default'
>>>>> option, the default condition is 'true' and the monitor request for
>>>>> the main
>>>>> database is sent out immediately after receiving the schema, so the
>>>>> application
>>>>> has no time to react.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think, there are few possible solutions for this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Introduce a new state in the CS state machine, e.g.
>>>>>   CS_S_SERVER_SCHEMA_RCEIVED, and move out from this state in the run()
>>>>>   callback.  This way the application will have a chance to set up
>>>>> conditions
>>>>>   before they are sent.  Slightly not intuitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. A variation on what you suggested, i.e. enter the
>>>>> CS_S_SERVER_SCHEMA_RCEIVED
>>>>>   state and wait for some sort of the signal from the application to
>>>>> proceed.
>>>>>   Sounds a bit counter-intuitive for an IDL user.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Introduce an application callback that can be called from the
>>>>>   ovsdb_idl_compose_monitor_request() the same way as this function
>>>>> is getting
>>>>>   called form the ovsdb_cs_send_monitor_request().  An application
>>>>> will be
>>>>>   able to influence conditions before they are sent.
>>>>>   Might be tricky due to new->req->ack state transition.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Make the default condition configurable, e.g. by an additional
>>>>> argument
>>>>>   'default_condition' = true/false for an ovsdb_idl_create().  This
>>>>> way the
>>>>>   application will not get any data until conditions are actually set.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Or it maybe just a separate config function that will set default
>>>>> conditions
>>>>>   to 'false' and will need to be called before the first run().
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Change behavior of 'monitor_everything_by_default' argument.  Make it
>>>>>   actually add all the tables to the monitor, but with the 'false'
>>>>> condition.
>>>>>   Result should technically be the same.  Might be tricky to get
>>>>> right though
>>>>>   with all the backward compatibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Option 5 might be the better option of these.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think option 5 sounds the simplest to implement indeed.  It also
>>>> doesn't induce any compatibility issues as you mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> The only "issue" is we'd probably want this backported to stable OVN
>>>> releases so it means we need to bump the submodule version to an
>>>> unreleased version of OVS.  But that's an OVN problem and we discussed
>>>> similar instances of it before.
>>>>
>>>> I'll prepare a patch soon.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Dumitru
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>
>>
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