On 2/5/24 11:34, Ilya Maximets wrote:
> On 2/5/24 09:23, Dumitru Ceara wrote:
>> On 2/5/24 08:13, Han Zhou wrote:
>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 9:26 PM Numan Siddique <num...@ovn.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 9:53 PM Han Zhou <hz...@ovn.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 5:46 AM Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@ovn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  35 files changed, 9681 insertions(+), 4645 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had another look at this series and acked the remaining
>>> patches.  I
>>>>>>>>> just had some minor comments that can be easily fixed when
>>> applying
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> patches to the main branch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all the work on this!  It was a very large change but
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> improves northd performance significantly.  I just hope we don't
>>>>>>>>> introduce too many bugs.  Hopefully the time we have until release
>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> allow us to further test this change on the 24.03 branch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dumitru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot Dumitru and Han for the reviews and patience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I addressed the comments and applied the patches to main and also
>>> to
>>>>>>> branch-24.03.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Han - I know you wanted to take another look in to v6.  I didn't
>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> delay further as branch-24.03 was created.  I'm more than happy to
>>>>> submit
>>>>>>> follow up patches if you have any comments to address.  Please let
>>> me
>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Numan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was writing the reply and saw your email just now. Thanks a lot
>>> for
>>>>>>> taking a huge effort to achieve the great optimization. I only left
>>> one
>>>>>>> comment on the implicit dependency left for the en_lrnat ->
>>> en_lflow.
>>>>> Feel
>>>>>>> free to address it with a followup and no need to block the
>>> branching.
>>>>> And
>>>>>>> take my Ack for the series with that addressed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Acked-by: Han Zhou <hzhou at ovn.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Numan, Dumitru and Han.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see a huge negative performance impact, most likely from this set,
>>> on
>>>>>> ovn-heater's cluster-density tests.  The memory consumption on northd
>>
>> Thanks for reporting this, Ilya!
>>
>>>>>> jumped about 4x and it constantly recomputes due to failures of
>>> port_group
>>>>>> handler:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:12.441Z|01680|inc_proc_eng|INFO|node: lflow,
>>> recompute
>>>>> (failed handler for input port_group) took 9762ms
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:12.444Z|01681|timeval|WARN|Unreasonably long 9898ms
>>> poll
>>>>> interval (5969ms user, 1786ms system)
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:23.770Z|01690|inc_proc_eng|INFO|node: lflow,
>>> recompute
>>>>> (failed handler for input port_group) took 9014ms
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:23.773Z|01691|timeval|WARN|Unreasonably long 9118ms
>>> poll
>>>>> interval (5376ms user, 1515ms system)
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:36.692Z|01699|inc_proc_eng|INFO|node: lflow,
>>> recompute
>>>>> (failed handler for input port_group) took 10695ms
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:36.696Z|01700|timeval|WARN|Unreasonably long 10890ms
>>>>> poll interval (6085ms user, 2745ms system)
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:49.133Z|01708|inc_proc_eng|INFO|node: lflow,
>>> recompute
>>>>> (failed handler for input port_group) took 9985ms
>>>>>> 2024-02-03T11:09:49.137Z|01709|timeval|WARN|Unreasonably long 10108ms
>>>>> poll interval (5521ms user, 2440ms system)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That increases 95%% ovn-installed latency in 500node cluster-density
>>> from
>>>>>> 3.6 seconds last week to 21.5 seconds this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think, this should be a release blocker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Memory usage is also very concerning.  Unfortunately it is not tied
>>> to the
>>>>>> cluster-density test.  The same 4-5x RSS jump is also seen in other
>>> test
>>>>>> like density-heavy.  Last week RSS of ovn-northd in cluster-density
>>> 500
>>>>> node
>>>>>> was between 1.5 and 2.5 GB, this week we have a range between 5.5 and
>>> 8.5
>>>>> GB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would consider this as a release blocker as well.
>>>>>>
>>
>> I agree, we shouldn't release 24.03.0 unless these two issues are
>> (sufficiently) addressed.  We do have until March 1st (official release
>> date) to do that or to revert any patches that cause regressions.
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have direct evidence that this particular series is a
>>> culprit, but
>>>>>> it looks like the most likely candidate.  I can dig more into
>>>>> investigation
>>>>>> on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards, Ilya Maximets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Ilya for reporting this. 95% latency and 4x RSS increase is a
>>> little
>>>>> surprising to me. I did test this series with my scale test scripts for
>>>>> recompute performance regression. It was 10+% increase in latency. I
>>> even
>>>>> digged a little into it, and noticed ~5% increase caused by the hmap
>>> used
>>>>> to maintain the lflows in each lflow_ref. This was discussed in the code
>>>>> review for an earlier version (v2/v3). Overall it looked not very bad,
>>> if
>>>>> we now handle most common scenarios incrementally, and it is reasonable
>>> to
>>>>> have some cost for maintaining the references/index for incremental
>>>>> processing. I wonder if my test scenario was too simple (didn't have LBs
>>>>> included) to find the problems, so today I did another test by
>>> including a
>>>>> LB group with 1k LBs applied to 100 node-LS & GR, and another 1K LBs per
>>>>> node-LS & GR (101K LBs in total), and I did see more performance penalty
>>>>> but still within ~20%. While for memory I didn't notice a significant
>>>>> increase (<10%). I believe I am missing some specific scenario that had
>>> the
>>>>> big impact in the ovn-heater's tests. Please share if you dig out more
>>>>> clues .
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ilya,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reporting these details.
>>>>
>>>> I had a look at this regression.   There is a significant increase in
>>>> the lflow recompute
>>>> time (around 4x) in my local testing and this definitely not acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> In this particular cluster density test, whenever a port group is
>>>> created it results in a full recompute
>>>> and now since recompute time has increased, it has a cumulative effect
>>>> on the latency of the test.
>>>>
>>>> The dp reference counting [1] added in the v4 of this series has
>>>> introduced this regression (both CPU and memory).
>>>> I'm working on this fix and I think I should be able to address this soon.
>>>>
>>>> [1] - https://github.com/ovn-org/ovn/blob/main/northd/lflow-mgr.c#L696
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Indeed, the same concern I mentioned when reviewing v5:
>>> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2024-January/411194.html
> 
> Yeah.  In this cluster-density 500node test, dp_refcnt_use() allocates
> 120 M references and puts them into hash maps.  That alone takes several
> GB of memory.  And it is a largest consumer according to massif.
> It takes ~45% of total memory allocations.  Another ~25% are taken by hash
> maps where the refcounts are stored.
> 
> There is a simple optimization that can be made - not allocate refcounts
> if it is the first time we're trying to add them.  The original bitmap
> should be enough.  And if we try to use it again while it is already in
> a bitmap, then allocate.  That saves a lot of space, because 80% of all
> refcounts in that test never used more than once.  However, it might not
> be enough.  Needs testing.  Ideally the whole structure needs to go or
> be replaced by something different.  Frequent iterations over the bitmaps
> and per-datapath*per-lflow memory allocations do not scale.  Even if we
> can make it work reasonably well for 500 nodes, it will cause problems on
> higher scale.

FWIW, I have a small prototype for this partial solution that seem to
noticeably decrease the memory usage here:
  https://github.com/igsilya/ovn/commit/5ac3a78e287708fd571344c74a021e418fde31a4

I need to run this through the scale run to get actual results though.

Best regards, Ilya Maximets.
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