afraid to try xD they may access our cache then submit it online, who knows
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Is Facebook part of New World Order? > > heh > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Abdulla Al-Attas > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would like to add few things to the Facebook topic > > > > last week IMPACT hosted a conference called POLCYB for the POLCYB > > organization and the last theme panel was related to social networking. > The > > POLCYB commite invited one of the security people from Facebook. From > > his talk he was trying to make the people to ask him (knowing most of > them > > are government and high level people) and he was trying to potray that > > Facebook is doing its best to protect people privacy and other matters > > related to Child Online Protection. > > > > I just couldn't accept what he is saying so I asked him two questions: > > 1- from coporate responsibility, from Facebook response to cases and from > > data protection. could you tell me why Facebook took too long to > implement > > SSL as layer of protection especially when FireSheep came out. while > other > > companies like google implemented in a very fast manner. > > 2- can you explain to me how people data is private. when I can access it > > easily and the privacy setting keep changing sometimes to its worst? > > > > > > his response was > > that facebook didn't take too long to apply SSL and they did it in > January > > (side note: FYI FireSheep was out lets say Novemeber that means it took > them > > 2 months) and maybe if we are late because of the applications we have. > and > > SSL is not really that secure (at least its another layer of protection) > > > > in terms of privacy we are trying to balance for people preference. > > > > > > so I asked again > > you are talking about application so you are saying that google and > > microsoft don't have any application and they just roll out SSL? (He > didn't > > answer this question) > > > > and we are talking about privacy especially related to Children do you > > really think it is safe and how does people know what is the best > > preference, when your default settings is share to all. > > > > > > his response was > > parents should educate them and inform them and monitor them. (how many > > parents now about privacy issues, some of them they only know how to go > to > > news and emails.. they have no idea about social networking and what > other > > people might do with information on the net) > > how about our friends who are working in offices and what kinda > information > > they share.. > > > > > > so, basically as David said: "Protecting your Facebook password is a lot > > like trying to be modest when you're already naked" > > this facebook decryptor won't protect you from Phishing or keylogger :-) > > > > another thing is very ironic when people came face to face and ask about > you > > and some of the questions you might make you say non of your business > > (indicating privacy) while people actually share everything in facebook > or > > twitter > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:52 AM, David Fetter <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Protecting your Facebook password is a lot like trying to be modest > >> when you're already naked. > >> > >> It's *really* important to understand that Facebook is not your > >> friend. It's a multinational conglomerate that models you as a cheap > >> source of information it can sell to others. Its business model has > >> been this from the very beginning, and is less likely to change > >> significantly from it than Malaysia is to become a strictly Christian > >> country. > >> > >> If people don't like this reality, it's on them to build and maintain > >> social networking systems which are not based on this kind of > >> exploitation. > >> > >> Here are a few :) > >> > >> http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/25/onesocialweb-appleseed-elgg-insoshi/ > >> > >> Cheers, > >> David. > >> On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 09:48:37AM +0800, Hazrul Hamzah wrote: > >> > Hi Dave, > >> > > >> > Even though ur comment is kinda hard and might hit the nerve to most > of > >> > us here, I do agree with u 100 percent. > >> > We hv to look the purpose of fb and might read the toc/tos or > >> > disclaimer. 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