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>    1. Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a        USB dongle
>       ( Pedro C?rte-Real )
>    2. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle (Paul Alfille)
>    3. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle ( Pedro C?rte-Real )
>    4. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle (George M. Zouganelis)
>    5. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle ( Pedro C?rte-Real )
>    6. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle ( Pedro C?rte-Real )
>    7. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle (Jan Kandziora)
>    8. Re: Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor to a USB
>       dongle ( Pedro C?rte-Real )
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> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:14:33 +0000
> From: " Pedro C?rte-Real " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20 sensor
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> I'm trying to use a 18B20 sensor connected to a USB dongle. I've put
> the 18B20 sensor directly on an RJ-11 connector. I've connected the
> 18B20 Vcc connector to the USB Gnd. When I plug it directly to the
> dongle it works fine. If I put it on a 12 meter cable it stops
> working. Do I need to power the 18B20 with Vcc for this distance?
>
> In general what should I look out for in distances over 10 meters?
>
> Pedro.
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> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:16:53 -0500
> From: "Paul Alfille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20
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> Are you certain that the extension cable doesn't reverse polarity?
>
> Paul
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> On 3/3/07, Pedro C?rte-Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> I'm trying to use a 18B20 sensor connected to a USB dongle. I've put
>> the 18B20 sensor directly on an RJ-11 connector. I've connected the
>> 18B20 Vcc connector to the USB Gnd. When I plug it directly to the
>> dongle it works fine. If I put it on a 12 meter cable it stops
>> working. Do I need to power the 18B20 with Vcc for this distance?
>>
>> In general what should I look out for in distances over 10 meters?
>>
>> Pedro.
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> From: " Pedro C?rte-Real " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20
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> On 3/3/07, Paul Alfille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Are you certain that the extension cable doesn't reverse polarity?
>>     
>
> I think not. I've tried with a cable I did myself and one I bought and
> I've used a cable tester on them. Everything seems to check out.
>
> Pedro.
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> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:16:02 +0200
> From: "George M. Zouganelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20
>       sensor to a USB dongle
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> what kind of cable did you use, flat telephone, shielded or unshielded
> twisted AWG24? Have you checked for parasitic noise sources near it?
>
> once I tried a 'T' topology with unshielded AWG24s in a noise free
> environment and I got several glitches.
>
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> Pedro C?rte-Real wrote on 3/3/2007 22:38:
>   
>> On 3/3/07, Paul Alfille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> Are you certain that the extension cable doesn't reverse polarity?
>>>       
>> I think not. I've tried with a cable I did myself and one I bought and
>> I've used a cable tester on them. Everything seems to check out.
>>
>> Pedro.
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> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:21:30 +0000
> From: " Pedro C?rte-Real " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20
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> On 3/3/07, Pedro C?rte-Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On 3/3/07, Paul Alfille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> Are you certain that the extension cable doesn't reverse polarity?
>>>       
>> I think not. I've tried with a cable I did myself and one I bought and
>> I've used a cable tester on them. Everything seems to check out.
>>     
>
> It was this after all. The female<->female connector I was using was
> inverting. I swapped the cable around and it now works.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pedro.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:22:11 +0000
> From: " Pedro C?rte-Real " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20
>       sensor  to a USB dongle
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> On 3/3/07, George M. Zouganelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> what kind of cable did you use, flat telephone, shielded or unshielded
>> twisted AWG24? Have you checked for parasitic noise sources near it?
>>
>> once I tried a 'T' topology with unshielded AWG24s in a noise free
>> environment and I got several glitches.
>>     
>
> Turns out it was a polarity problem. The cable should be much of a
> problem since it's Cat6.
>
> Pedro.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:24:41 +0100
> From: Jan Kandziora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Owfs-developers] Cable length when connecting a 18B20
>       sensor  to a USB dongle
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> Am Samstag, 3. M?rz 2007 21:14 schrieb Pedro C?rte-Real:
>   
>> Do I need to power the 18B20 with Vcc for this distance? 
>>
>>     
> No. Power requirement of the DS18B20 is max. 1.5mA, which causes only a 
> voltage drop in the mV range even on long and thin 1W and GND lines.
>
> Check for contact problems at the connectors.
>
>
>   
>> In general what should I look out for in distances over 10 meters?
>>
>>     
> If you power a lot of onewire chips (and peripheals) over a thin, long cable, 
> the GND niveau at the end of the cable may reach 0.7V due to the current 
> through it. This disturbs the onewire function for chips at the end of the 
> cable a lot.
>
> Kind regards
>
>       Jan
>   

Hey  i have my DS18s20's all over the house  my line length is about 300 
feet in total  it was difficult  but i have 32 ds18s20 and 4 DS2408 all 
on the same network
just add one step at a time.

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