hum, we must have in snmp? could we use string instead numbers?
coulbe we create it at runtime?

'client' ask somethink to ow-snmp(daemon) it seek if mib(oid) exist in
"snmp file map",
if found - work with it,
if not - create a new entry (order of filesystem owfs) and put new
entries to "snmp file map"

after first full read, we have a file with the 'alias'...


2011/1/20 ZIggy <[email protected]>:
> Sorry for the long post, but it seems some clarifications are in order. I
> think you need to do some basic review of how SNMP works.
> <http://www.rzo.free.fr/docs_jean/snmp.pdf> is a reasonable introduction,
> but only scratches the surface.
>
> If you are going to use SNMP, you *will* be using MIBs, OIDs, etc. These are
> the fundamentals of SNMP regardless of version (v1, v2c, v3). But If you
> want to understand this in a more directly relevant way, download the MIB
> for the product that Paul A. referred to from the 'Downloads' tab of the web
> page. If you then look at the objects that are defined, you can get some
> sense of how this works.
>
> If you have linux snmp-tools and the standard MIBs installed, you can use
> the snmptranslate utility to dump the MIB and see how it's organized. For
> example:
>
> snmptranslate -M /usr/share/mibs/ietf -m ALL  -m ./OW_Bridge_MIB_V0.3.mib -T
> p .1.3.6.1.4
>
> This will start translating the OW_Bridge_MIB beginning at the top of the
> EDS branch. The output will illustrate the hierarchy of the MIB:
>
> +--edsMain(31440)
>    |
>    +--edsEnterprise(1)
>    |  |
>    |  +-- -R-- String    eCompanyName(1)
>    |  |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>    |  +-- -R-- String    eProductName(2)
>    |  |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>    |  +-- -R-- String    eMIBVersion(3)
>    |  |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>    |  +-- -R-- String    eFirmwareVersion(4)
>    |  |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>    |  +-- -R-- String    eFirmwareDate(5)
>    |           Textual Convention: DisplayString
>    |
>    +--owTrap(2)
>    |  |
>    |  +--owTrapTable(1)
>    |  |  |
>    |  |  +--owTrapEntry(1)
>    |  |     |  Index: owTrapIndex
>    |  |     |
>    |  |     +-- -R-- INTEGER   owTrapIndex(1)
>    |  |     +-- -RW- INTEGER   owTrapEnable(2)
>    |  |     |        Range: 0..1
>    |  |     +-- -RW- IpAddr    owTrapIP(3)
>    |  |     +-- -RW- String    owTrapCommunity(4)
>    |  |              Textual Convention: DisplayString
>    |  |
>    |  +--owTrapDeviceTable(2)
>
> and it goes on from there, on to the part where individual devices are
> found:
>
>    +--owDevices(10)
>       |
>       +--owDeviceTypes(1)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owNone(0)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owUnknown(1)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS2406(2)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS18B20(3)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS18S20(4)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS2438(5)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS2423(6)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS2408(7)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS2450(8)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owEDS0064(9)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owEDS0065(10)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owEDS0066(11)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owEDS0067(12)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owEDS0068(13)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owEDS0069(14)
>       |
>       +--owDeviceInfo(2)
>       |  |
>       |  +-- -R-- INTEGER   owDeviceNumActive(1)
>       |
>       +--owDeviceTable(3)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDeviceEntry(1)
>       |     |  Index: owDeviceIndex
>       |     |
>       |     +-- -R-- INTEGER   owDeviceIndex(1)
>       |     +-- -R-- INTEGER   owDeviceType(2)
>       |     +-- -R-- String    owDeviceName(3)
>       |     |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>       |     +-- -R-- String    owDeviceDescription(4)
>       |     |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>       |     +-- -R-- String    owDeviceFamily(5)
>       |     |        Size: 2
>       |     +-- -R-- String    owDeviceROM(6)
>       |     |        Size: 16
>       |     +-- -R-- INTEGER   owDeviceHealth(7)
>       |              Range: 0..8
>       |
>       +--owDS2406Table(4)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS2406Entry(1)
>       |     |  Index: owDeviceIndex
>       |     |
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS2406PIOALevel(1)
>       |     |        Values: low(0), high(1)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS2406PIOBLevel(2)
>       |     |        Values: low(0), high(1)
>       |     +-- -RW- EnumVal   owDS2406PIOAFlipFlop(3)
>       |     |        Values: low(0), high(1)
>       |     +-- -RW- EnumVal   owDS2406PIOBFlipFlop(4)
>       |     |        Values: low(0), high(1)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS2406PIOAActivityLatch(5)
>       |     |        Values: noActivity(0), yesActivity(1)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS2406PIOBActivityLatch(6)
>       |     |        Values: noActivity(0), yesActivity(1)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS2406NumChnls(7)
>       |     |        Values: pioAonly(0), pioAandB(1)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS2406PwrSupply(8)
>       |     |        Values: pwrParasite(0), pwrExternal(1)
>       |     +-- -RW- EnumVal   owDS2406ActivityLatchReset(9)
>       |              Values: noReset(0), yesReset(1)
>       |
>       +--owDS18B20Table(5)
>       |  |
>       |  +--owDS18B20Entry(1)
>       |     |  Index: owDeviceIndex
>       |     |
>       |     +-- -R-- String    owDS18B20Temperature(1)
>       |     |        Textual Convention: DisplayString
>       |     +-- -RW- INTEGER   owDS18B20UserByte1(2)
>       |     +-- -RW- INTEGER   owDS18B20UserByte2(3)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS18B20Resolution(4)
>       |     |        Values: nineBits(9), tenBits(10), elevenBits(11),
> twelveBits(12)
>       |     +-- -R-- EnumVal   owDS18B20PwrSupply(5)
>       |              Values: parasitePower(0), externalPower(255)
>
> This is how the MIB defines the OIDs that are used in the SNMP commands and
> responses between the SNMP manager and the SNMP agent. All the other labels
> are for us humans. If you follow this hierarchy down, you will see how this
> whole tree is traversed to build the OID. For example:
>
> .iso(1).org(3).dod(6).internet(1).private(4).enterprises(1).edsMain(31440).owDevices(10).owDS18B20Table(5).owDS18B20Entry(1)
>
> Now if you want to iterate through a table (such as the owDS18B20Table in
> this case) , then you also have to use the indexes, but this should be
> enough to give you the basic idea. As I said, SNMP isn't necessarily simple.
>
> I think the only use case for SNMP is going to be where you want to bring
> the device running owfs into an existing SNMP environment. This could be
> useful for monitoring and thresholding 1-wire devices without having to
> install any other tools or utilities. But I don't know how many would
> actually use it. EDS seemed top think it worth the effort to develop an
> agent, so who knows.
>
> One other thing to note is that the EDS product (with the MIB discussed
> above) looks like it implements things on the basis of a single flat bus.
> DS2409 devices are conspicuously absent. in any case, translating the owfs
> paradigm to SNMP should be doable (both are hierarchical tree structures).
> There are some utilities (like mib2c) that will help in creating a code
> framework once the MIB has been defined, but it's not a trivial task.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Davis
>
> On 01/20/2011 02:19 PM, Roberto Spadim wrote:
>
> the first solution without MIBs is possible?
> implement MIBs is a second problem we need snmp first to make it..
>
> 2011/1/20 Mauricio Culibrk <[email protected]>:
>
> Nice! ;)
>
> at least, it's a start... their MIBs...
> as far as I understood the "presentation" on their web page, their
> system is rather similar to owfs (owhttpd), but with somehow less
> "entries" in the hierarchy.
> I have not seen their devices (actually, web UI) to jump to any
> conclusions or allusions but they could be easily using (some sort of
> adapted) owfs for their product ;)
>
> Regarding "ethical or legal" I really do not know... here the
> "environment" is not so strict as in the US so... but I think there
> should be no legal issues for using their MIBs as a base/sample. At the
> end it's just a "mapping" between numbers (OIDs) and strings...
> OK, owfs should use it's own "enterprise ID" in the OID (should be
> registered) and I doubt their MIBs should/could be used "unmodified" -
> but they can be more than useful as a "learning base"...
>
> Depending on what should be made visible/accessible via snmp the owfs
> MIB could be rather large/different than their implementation...
>
> regards,
> m.culibrk
>
> On 01/20/2011 06:51 PM, Paul Alfille wrote:
>
> Actually, EDS has an SNMP mapping and support in some of their producs. See:
>
> http://www.embeddeddatasystems.com/OW-SERVER--1-Wire-to-Ethernet-Server_p_152.html
>
> It certainly might make sense to use a similar scheme, but I haven't
> investigated it since I don't know if that would be ethical or legal.
>
> Paul Alfille
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Roberto Spadim<[email protected]>
>  wrote:
>
> there´s a onewire snmp solution?
>
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