2. I was not aware that .pie is specific only to OWLIM, therefore my apology. 
What is then the standard format for rulewriting? What I mean is that in what 
format are predefined rulesets in Sesame Workbench stores?
Main idea was to add custom ruleset in workbench, I agree that editing would 
not make much sense.

3. I understand that I can't change ruleset just like that... ,my point is that 
our application is still in developement and therefore I change ruleset from 
time to time (but I don't expect it is immediatedly applied to repository). I 
thought OWLIM compiles rules during creating new repository. Therefore I didn't 
expect changes in .pie are immediatedly used.
Our common scenario is that :
a. There is working repository with working ruleset.
b. I would like to add some rules (but without recomputing them and without 
having additional rules file)
c. If set of new rules will be final, I can drop the working repository and 
recreate it with new rules. 

It happened to me few times that I changed .pie file and then Tomcat restart 
came and I couldn't delete repository nor to create the same one with the new 
rules. Therefore I had to revert .pie file, delete repository and then I can 
again change .pie and create new repository. 

If it has some technical explanation I would accept it and try to avoid the 
same situations. It just happened to me few times and therefore I asked whether 
it is possible to change it.


Best regards,

Marek


________________________________
 From: Barry Norton <barry.nor...@ontotext.com>
To: owlim-discussion@ontotext.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 12:24
Subject: Re: [Owlim-discussion] [Sesame] Few features request for upcoming 2.7
 

2. Since PIE is an OWLIM-specific rule format, it would not make sense to add 
this to the Sesame Workbench. The OWLIM Workbench already has an option to 
upload a custom ruleset.

While editing is something that could be considered for the OWLIM Workbench, 
it's probably a feature that's used by only a small proportion of users, for a 
very small proportion of their time, that other features would be likely to be 
prioritised.

3. a) it's worth considering that rules are internalised, but this would make 
it more difficult to change the ruleset used in an existing repository (via 
SPARQL). Would it not just be easier, when you're using a custom ruleset, to 
create a separate ruleset file for each repository and a separate one to make 
edits? In the case of deletion I do agree (on the Sesame list) that having to 
initialise the repository before deleting it is a pain.

Barry


On 19/02/13 10:58, Barry Norton wrote:
> 
> Marek, a number of these are OWLIM requests and I'll answer those separately 
> on the owlim-discussion list...
> 
> Barry
> 
> 
> On 19/02/13 10:55, Marek Surek wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I would like to propose a few new features in upcoming 2.7 release. As I
>> don't know whether 2.7 is not feature freeze for now, I post the features
>> here.
>> 1. Create repository in workbench directly from .ttl file
>> 2. Create/add/edit custom ruleset in workbench (the ability to add custom
>> .pie file would be great)
>> 3. Change the behavior for deletition of repository. The problem is that
>> when I slightly change .pie or remove .pie or .ttl file, I can't delete
>> existing repository. The developers from Ontotext told me it is because
>> Sesame needs to initialize repository first, but the initialization cannot
>> be done. It is possible to change this behaviour in the way :
>> a) the whole ttl and pie information will be stored in repository so there
>> will be no need to have exactly the same files for the whole repository life
>> and repository can be deleted anytime.
>> b) the initalization of repository is not required when delete repository
>> action.
>> 
>> 
>> Is it possible to consider at least few of this features?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Marek
>> 
>> 
>> 
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