I believe there should be different branches of a single apps
repository, rather than a different apps-playground repo. Merges with
the master branch would be easier in this case.

@Georg: maybe I don't understand it, you are suggesting something of this kind:
<path>/owncloud/apps/
<path>/apps

how do you specify which app folder should owncloud refer to?

thanks,
Alessandro

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Frank Karlitschek <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 27.04.2012, at 18:42, Georg Ehrke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:40 schrieb Georg Ehrke:
>>
>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:27 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>>
>>>> After those changes, I am a bit confused. Jakob and Jan suggested that
>>>> I develop the feed reader app in the apps repo, since even core apps
>>>> are going to move there. Two questions in particular:
>>>>
>>>> 1. should I create a work branch of the apps repo or work in the
>>>> master? I would say a work branch is better, since even core apps are
>>>> going to move there. At the same time, I see that now all apps are
>>>> developed in master (mail app, for instance);
>>>>
>>> In my opinion we should create an apps-experimental repository where we can 
>>> store apps that are unstable.
>> I just saw that there is already a repository called apps-playground.
>
> Exactly. You can use that if you want.
> But a branch of the apps repo is also fine.
>
>
>>>> 2. locally where should I clone the apps repo? I figure that if I
>>>> clone it in the owncloud/app sub-folder, things will get messed up
>>>> with the two git configurations.
>>> You can clone all in the same directory
>>> e.g.:
>>> /path/3rdparty
>>> /path/apps
>>> /path/owncloud
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Georg
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alessandro
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Georg Ehrke
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 13:00 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27.04.2012, at 09:54, Georg Ehrke <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 26.04.2012 um 23:24 schrieb Thomas Müller:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 26.04.2012 um 23:17 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2012, at 23:00, Thomas Müller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will this also result in a movement of all apps from the owncloud 
>>>>>>>>>> repo to the apps repo?
>>>>>>> Are we also going to remove the 3rdparty files from the main repo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. We switch the the "3rdparty" repository.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool - will make app develoment easier as well!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How will the tar-balls on Release be created e.g. what will they 
>>>>>>>>>> contain?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This won´t change.
>>>>>>>>> We still ship the apps that we all decide with the tar file 
>>>>>>>>> independently from the repo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Especially the last question is interesting from a distro packaging 
>>>>>>>>>> point of view (as I have it,
>>>>>>>>>> because I recently started to work on bringing ownCloud to the real 
>>>>>>>>>> Debian repo).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Awesome. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> aka Sweet ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our plan is to bring OC4 to the next Debian stable (7 aka Wheezy).
>>>>>>>> A long way to go as some core dependencies are simple not there e.g. 
>>>>>>>> MDB2_Schema and SabreDAV.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have a core tar ball only with the file and sync 
>>>>>>>>>> handling stuff (and maybe contacts and calendar).
>>>>>>>>>> An an additional tar ball containing the apps, which can then be 
>>>>>>>>>> packaged separately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. Thats possible now. And the good thing is that the apps can live 
>>>>>>>>> outside the owncloud directory. I suppose thats should make packaging 
>>>>>>>>> a bit more easy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For sure!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As off today the release tar ball 'only' contains the owncloud repo. 
>>>>>>>>>> Apps from the apps repo are not released at all. (By intention?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the future the release tarball can contain apps independently from 
>>>>>>>>> the repo (core or apps).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Müller                 E-Mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 26.04.2012 um 22:49 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>> Great work! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> This means that the apps folder can now live outside the owncloud 
>>>>>>>>>>> folder.
>>>>>>>>>>> Very nice
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2012, at 22:23, Georg Ehrke <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> today i finished my work on movable apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will merge it tomorrow into master.
>>>>> I just merged it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Important changes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>       • files app moved to app folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>               • there is still /owncloud/files/webdav.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>       • php and css files will be loaded through 
>>>>>>>>>>>> /owncloud/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>               • example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       • /?app=files -> app
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       • /?app=files&getfile=/ajax/rename.php -> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> execute file of an app
>>>>>>>>>>>>       • you can add %webroot% and %appswebroot% to css files
>>>>>>>>>>>>               • use in urls of background images
>>>>>>>>>>>>       • please use our internal functions to generate paths
>>>>>>>>>>>>               • js: OC.filePath
>>>>>>>>>>>>               • php: OC_Helper::linkTo
>>>>>>>>>>>>       • Files for *Dav and ampache are still in the app folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>               • i think about creating a /owncloud/remote folder 
>>>>>>>>>>>> where apps can write the php files for their remote services
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       • what do you think about this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>       • I made every app in main ownCloud repo work with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Georg
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