Hi,

due to the big impact Oracle has on the ownCloud code and the pretty high risk
to screw up the system (which is actually the case - git master is unusable).

I'd like to vote for a revert of the change in the current state of the release 
cycle.
Last week MTGap and members of the community started to test 4.5 especially
with the focus on the new sharing features. Putting another big change set on 
top
will actually kill all the testing effort.

I simply think the risk is to high to introduce bug which will give us 
headaches.

In addition to that I'd like to ask the community's opinion on ownCloud 
supporting 
Oracle database. My point of view is pretty clear - which is a non-business 
point of view:
    I don't need it - I don't want it - I don't want to maintain it!

As soon as some more elaborate database layer is in place (e.g. doctrine) and 
the impact of the database management systems on the code are minimal I don't 
care which databases are supported, but until that point let us stick with our 
3 
databases for now - it's already a hell of testing!


Take care,

Tom aka DeepDiver


Am Freitag, dem 24.08.2012 um 19:31 schrieb Jörn Friedrich Dreyer:
> I am currently merging master into my personal stable4-oracle branch and
> will commit oracle support tomorrow. This will allow us to give the
> implementation a lot of testing before owncloud customers will be using
> it in production.
> 
> On the bad side I had to make changes to ALL SQL statements.
> On the good side the changes are consistent and leave no room for
> exceptions:
> 1. Escape every identifier with backticks ('SELECT user' ... becomes
> 'SELECT `user`)
> 2. Move LIMIT & OFFSET SQL to a parameter for OC_DB::prepare()
> 3. Disable using PDO for oracle.
> 
> Why:
> 1. In contrast to mysql, postgrasql and sqlite oracle uppercases
> unescaped identifiers. This leads to a ton of nameclashes with 'user',
> 'uid', 'gid' and others, so escaping them is the right way.
> 2. oracle does not know limit and offset, which is why mdb2 also
> provides limit and offset parameters to add the necessary SQL or a
> workaround for oracle.
> 3. PDO for oracle is unstable and in general a PITA to set up.
> 
> If you want to help testing with oracle suport, there is an express
> version free of charge limited to 18GB of data and one CPU:
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/products/express-edition/downloads/index.html
> 
> +1 for introducing doctrine
> 
> so long
> 
> Jörn
> 
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