Just to let the mailing list know: We sorted it out on the IRC channel. :) Still a bunch of differing opinions but also lots of agreements where problems lie. We just need to agree on how to solve them.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt < h...@jancborchardt.net> wrote: > Hey Stefan, > > I’m not sure why you have this opinion of our community, and why you > answer via the mailing list. I invited you several times to join us at > #owncloud-design or get started by fixing some design issues at > https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues?labels=Design&page=1&state=open – > haven’t seen you submitting pull requests or joining discussions on IRC. I > thought because you said that you did a theme for Drupal you know how open > source communities work – and we are particularly committed to less talk on > the mailing list and more actual work to improve the software. > > Others like Raghu, Kondou, Morris, Guillaume, Hou and more are doing this > and help the project a lot. We are committed to quality for users first, > and backend changes definitely have a lower priority, especially big > refactoring in core. > > Please understand that you can’t just come, not care about bugs, and > propose switching everything to Bootstrap as first thing. This is not > Drupal – ownCloud is neither a blogging engine nor has a strong focus on > templating. Before you can spearhead such massive changes we obviously need > to know if you will stick around and can do the simple stuff, the bugfixing > which is so important for better quality. > > And about the accusation for »lack of vision«: We wouldn’t be where we are > right now without a community of diverse views and a common thread to unite > them: That we want to be in control of our data, and enable everyone to be > able to do the same. > > > If you reconsider, just dive in. If not, all the best. > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Stefan Nagtegaal < > developm...@standoutdesign.nl> wrote: > >> Jan-Christoph, >> >> Please do not mention me again in your replies. I'm done with ownCloud >> and the way this "community" works, unfortunately it isn't mine due to it's >> lack of vision and the very few people that seem to know where ownCloud is >> going. >> Good luck with improving the UI and your vision of ownCloud's design. You >> are going to need it for sure. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> Stefan >> Op 15 apr. 2013, om 14:07 heeft Jan-Christoph Borchardt < >> notificati...@github.com> het volgende geschreven: >> >> @raghunayyar <https://github.com/raghunayyar> yeah, probably it’s best >> to do 14px – as 12px makes everything smaller and 16px too big. That’s >> because the default font size was set to .8em >> >> In the future we should probably make the interface a bit bigger anyway >> so it’s more easily clickable, but that’s a separate issue. >> >> @stefannagtegaal <https://github.com/stefannagtegaal> for the record >> since you quote a problem iwth IE6: We only support IE down to version 8. >> >> — >> Reply to this email directly or view it on >> GitHub<https://github.com/owncloud/core/pull/2143#issuecomment-16380893> >> . >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Owncloud mailing list >> Owncloud@kde.org >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >> >> >
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