Isn't there a plugin for that?  I thought that there was.  Python Tools for 
Visual Studio, isn't it?  Works for both Iron and C python, I think.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Preet Sangha
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:22 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Managing databases

Thanks Brendan.

I used to use IronPython big time as a customisation hook. The ability to load 
some code from the DB as an upgrade channel was great.

I really hope that it's Visual Studio experience is a lot better. In my 
currently role do less straight code and more functional & declarative code and 
Iron Python would really help connect the dots.

On 18 December 2012 14:52, Katherine Moss 
<katherine.m...@gordon.edu<mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu>> wrote:
That's so cool.  I plan to learn Python in the future.  C# and PowerShell in 
Tandem, then Python, then EAGLE (or TCL via the .NET Framework).  What else is 
still up in the air depending on what the heck I need to be learning for 
whatever I'm working on.  Dang, you're on the project?  That's like, awesome!  
It's a small world in the tech sphere, isn't it?  I go by the handle 
chromebuster on CodePlex, if you're ever looking for me on there.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of BC
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:45 PM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Managing databases
Hi Katherine,

IronPython is still being actively developed and a new release is coming early 
2013 (at least that's the current plan). Version 3.0 compatibility is nearly 
complete in the 2.7x versions of IronPython, but from memory Jeff has full 
completion slated sometime next year.

Regards, Brenden

On 18 December 2012 11:40, Katherine Moss 
<katherine.m...@gordon.edu<mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu>> wrote:
Interesting.  I think I guessed IronRuby since that plugs right into .NET, you 
know?  By the way, is that even still being developed?  It doesn't seem that 
IronPython is; the last update for it is version 2.73, though C Python is all 
the way at 3.0.  What's with that, I wonder?  Maybe all of the members of those 
projects left or something?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of Ben Scott
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:38 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Managing databases

Just plain Ruby. I think I used RubyInstaller for Windows - 
http://rubyinstaller.org/
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Katherine Moss 
<katherine.m...@gordon.edu<mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu>> wrote:
Is that written in IronRuby, by any chance?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of Ben Scott
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:29 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Managing data

I have a similar system but I have a simple ruby script that applies migration 
scripts. I can run it against development databases and when I'm deploying a 
new version of the system I just run it against the production database. It 
includes a bootstrap migration to create the schema version table, and if the 
first migration is a dump of the existing schema and you insert the migration 
record on production you can create development databases totally in script. 
I've open sourced the script at 
https://github.com/swxben/Shu-Er/tree/master/ruby/database_migrations
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Stuart Kinnear 
<stu...@skproactive.com<mailto:stu...@skproactive.com>> wrote:
I guess this is an age old problem, managing database changes such that they 
respect applications dependent on them.  We are bolting more applications to a 
couple of sql databases so the management exercise is becoming more complex, 
risky and expensive to maintain.

Currently we have a database version number, use schema naming for application 
specific views and procedures and have a folder of each change in sequential 
order that has to be applied to production.

Over the holiday break I thought I might research how we can improve our 
approach.  What systems have you or your organisations adopted  to keep it all 
under control , and are they successful?


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