On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ian Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
> ARM has had secure boot (ROM), and experience with Windows since Windows > Embedded CE6.0 – maybe adding the extra ROM does add an incremental cost to > a tablet on the same ARM A9 multicore that HP uses in its Slate 7 tablets. > But $900 for the Intel-based Hewlett-Packard equivalent tablet with Windows > 8 seems a little high (Intel Atom ? 2-core processor). > It seemed approximately the same cost as Microsoft's Surface. I haven't scrutinised either's feature set in depth. > **** > > Let’s leave aside Hewlett-Packard’s business decisions. It was just an > idle thought of mine that they didn’t produce a WinRT version of Slate 7. > **** > > Um, no commment. :) > If one dislikes Windows OS on tablets – or maybe is “going off” the > Windows platform altogether (? Scott Barnes), then there’s no discussion to > be had. **** > > But getting back to WinRT vs Android for tablets. > WHat apps do you guys actually consider to be 'killer' and be ones that you use on a tablet, day to day? - email integrated with Exchange and Gmail - additional to above, calendar - reader - browser - VOIP - morning alarm clock :) NOT - the rest of Office - anything involving much keyboard operation - games > **** > > Windows 8 phone OS appears to run comfortably on 1Gb RAM with single-core > processors (eg, Nokia Lumia 920/925 – Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor > which uses the ARM v7 instruction set, and has a decent GPU), so I can’t > see that Windows RT tablets should be dismissed. **** > > Of course they’re not going to run Intel-based software but my > understanding (simple reference <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinRT>) is > that a .NET runtime similar to Silverlight runs on WinRT and application > development should not be a whole new world. > Android has Dalvik, whereas Windows has dotNet. Both do a sort of JITC... > **** > ------------------------------ > > **Ian Thomas** > Victoria Park, ****Western Australia******** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer > *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:50 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: Tablets - WinRT and Android**** > > ** ** > > WinRT requires SecureBoot (so UEFI) and whole disk encryption, and > probably a bunch of other things, so generic ARM hardware may not suffice. > **** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Ken**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Ian Thomas > *Sent:* Friday, 21 June 2013 3:03 PM > *To:* 'ozDotNet' > *Subject:* Tablets - WinRT and Android**** > > ** ** > > (tangential to VS2012 hacks)**** > > Yes, that was my thought – the Slate 7 hardware has ARM processor, and the > WinRT would be a good fit. Then HP would have directly competing Android vs > Windows tablets. **** > > The US prices on (Android) Slate 7 are under $200. But the Nexus 7 is a > better-configured tablet ($+) – 3G/HSPA+ ($AU350 or so). **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > Ian Thomas > Victoria Park, Western Australia**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *mike smith > *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 12:36 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks**** > > ** ** > > Just Pro, AFAIK. You'd think that the hardware for Android would be a > good match for RT, though?**** > > ** ** > > Query for Microsoft: is RT available as a piece of software, or only sold > with hardware?**** > > ** ** > > Mike**** > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ian Thomas <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > Yes, I was going to raise that with you off-list Mike. The ones I know of > are the (Android) Slate 7 range and the ElitePad 800 and 900 (Win8 and > Win8Pro) – quite a different price bracket, though. I didn’t know there was > a Windows8 Slate (WinRT ?). **** > > **** > > ** ** > -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
