I still don't really understand the question, but here are some thoughts: "whether you guys agree with the premise that there are more ways to make money developing other than hiding your code and charging for your stuff"
You can certainly make money in ways other than "hiding your code". Red Hat is a large, high profile, company that I'm sure you're aware of. There are numerous consulting companies out there that don't write any code at all (closed or open). So, there's plenty of ways to "make money" However, your next point "charging for your stuff" is something different again. You can "charge for stuff" (e.g. expertise) without hiding code. But if you don't want to "charge for stuff" then you're relying on people's goodwill (donations). Whilst that's a possible business model, I'm not sure that's it's a huge market. You're going to need something special to survive if that's your funding model. "I told you guys that I have no interest in starting a business with development" If you want to have money coming in the door you've got two options: a) Work for someone else as an employee b) Work for yourself (either by charging, or via donations). This requires a business plan. You may have no interest in "being in business", but if you want to be self-employed you're going to have to get used to this Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 11:48 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: the Open Source community for .NET developers: the value of joining and developing OS VS. for-proffit development I told you guys that I have no interest in starting a business with development (try web hosting instead?). . I'm more interested in having fun as a developer and joining with other developers who need no more reward than community values and doing stuff for the community; I feel that .net projects that are really good with the acception of web applications are truly lacking in the open Source world. And I don't mind paying for visual studio since for now I have a version that's a holdover from DreamSpark until I get strong enough to program out in the open, and hopefully by then I'll have a good job. Technology for me is a lifestyle, so I feel that if I'm doing one thing as a job as well as for a hobby (administration works in both places for me with my server, could be more in the future), then the other one I could do for the os community; there are tons of projects that need a hand out there. What I'm asking more or less, is whether you guys agree with the premise that there are more ways to make money developing other than hiding your code and charging for your stuff. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: the Open Source community for .NET developers: the value of joining and developing OS VS. for-proffit development I'd suggest to try each and see what sits best for you personally. :) Some projects won't earn any money but might be more fun because of the project itself. Other projects might earn you money but require more of your time, or might not be as interesting or challenging. It really varies. You might also find your situation requires you to spend more of your time on the money earning than the fun community based stuff. You have to eat after all. I consider myself lucky to have such a job that I enjoy. Many people don't. At some point you may find yourself as a developer by trade, and a developer for fun. Or perhaps some other hobby that's not computer related. Life is too short to be doing stuff you don't love. Outsource the rest! :) On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Nathan Chere <nathan.ch...@saiglobal.com<mailto:nathan.ch...@saiglobal.com>> wrote: This sounds like a job for BizSpark: http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/ Essentially free access to all the MS stack development tools you could possibly need for 3 years while you get your business up and running. Buy licenses for what you use at the end of the 3 years if it takes off, no loss if it doesn't (there used to be a $100 "exit fee" but they scrapped it). -----Original Message----- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 8:24 AM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: the Open Source community for .NET developers: the value of joining and developing OS VS. for-proffit development Hello all, This question is one that I'm wrestling with right now. As I'm learning to develop with C# and PowerShell (I want my first project to be a PowerShell-based SSH client with some of the already-developed libraries for the protocol at its core), I see a lot of places where I could eventually join the .Net community as an open source developer (helping other projects and volunteering my time where other projects need a hand) and earn money through donations and through support contracts if my own personal project ideas ever take off. I'm definitely getting there though, I know that. But how do you decide based on the cost of development software (Visual Studio Professional 2012 and TFS 2012, or in my case, the express version of TFS used for CI and hooked up to a CodePlex either Git or TFS but probably TFS repository), and weigh the costs against going entirely for-proffit, in other words, closed source, proprietary development? I like the idea of Open Source because it allows the code to be available for everyone, especially if you find that you are already working at a job you love, right? So do you weigh the benefits and drawbacks of the Open Source community based on how much time you want to spend on a project? (though I don't think that should be the only factor; some of the best software in my opinion is not from the commercial market but from the OS community). Thanks all for your thoughts; I'm really trying to decide this; I see myself as an administrator by trade and a developer for the fun and enjoyment of it. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com<http://www.websense.com>
