Just a word of advice….I have been dealing with Opticomm for the last few
weeks and wonder if they have any customer service at all?   Its like a
black hole of requests..ask them a question and you will never get an
answer….a nightmare of support?  This is what happens when a company becomes
too large!

 

Anthony

Melbourne StuffUps…learn from others, share with others!

http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Ideas-Incubator-Stuffups-Failed-Startups/


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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 9:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition

 

Oh, I wasn’t sure what the point of the iiNet invoice was.

 

I was more interested in what you were claiming about HFC/cable.

 

One issue I have with cable is that the most productive members of the
community using the Internet, the IT sector, have gradually, over the years,
relocated themselves into high speed internet areas. The only high speed
internet for the last 20 years has really been cable. So you’ve now got the
people who can be the most economically productive with the internet
constrained because their internet isn’t going to change. They can no longer
get access to 1Gbps connections. Let’s be frank – from the IT sector’s point
of view, it’s all about how fast we can transfer files around, whether they
are content files, web sites, applications, databases, virtual machines,
videos, or desktop or server backups, it doesn’t really matter. We just want
them sent, and sent fast, and currently the time taken to do this takes so
long that we end up copying large files to usb drives and delivering them
ourselves, if we can’t wait a week for them to transfer.

 

Another issue I have with cable is that the highest number of connections
off a single cable is 32. You share your internet with 32 other customers
and if they are large consumers of bandwidth, too bad for you – the capacity
is constrained for that 32, and if you don’t like it, nothing is going to
change it, you’re stuck with it. The alternative, fibre, doesn’t have this
issue, because fibre is aggregated at the ISP. If there is too much
contention, they can add another CVC pipe (and in Jon Dart’s email he says a
CVC pipe could service a lot more than 3000 people in a large ISP).

 

Another issue is that there is no upgrade path from cable to NBN. They spend
all their time and money upgrading from DocSis 3.0 to 3.1 and they’re not
going to want to come back. Anyone who is in the cable area is no longer
going to have a node box at the end of the street. So the promise made
before the election that you could pay $3000 to connect up to the full NBN
is now gone. People in the cable areas have no ability to access 1Gbps
internet and will not have for 20 years. I am 150 metres from the NBN and
will no longer be able to pay for a connection because I am in a cable area.
If the world moves to even faster internet, which is possible given the
10Gbps trials are still in progress in the UK, then we won’t be able to move
to the higher speed. The Liberal NBN is simple not (small “a”) agile. Which
for the money spent is a shocker.

 

So the bottom line is, that’s why HFC sucks.

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 12:04 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition

 

On 16 December 2013 22:33, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

No, the fact that you went completely out of your way to shoot down the
Labor NBN without a single critical word of the Liberal plan is what makes
you partisan.

 

Pretty sure I was critical of CVC charges, which inherently was a labor plan
to keep it off the budget - which doesn't automatically make me a liberal
shill, btw. 

 

By the way, I got an email from Jon Dart suggesting that CVC is still in.

 

Yeah figured from the strategic review. So disappoint.

 

The Libs talked about it greatly before the election and aligned themselves
with the industry consensus. Then it isn't mentioned in the review.  They
get a F- in my books as a result - then again I said the whole plan from
either party was shit from the get go. 

He also made the statement “it is assumed that instead of decommissioning
the HFC networks, Telstra and/or Optus would transfer ownership of the
network. They’re going to hand over the networks for no cost apparently. And
$4 billion dollars to upgrade the system to FTTP in 13 years. Hmmm,
believable. Not.

I have no idea in that regard and have to wait until a deal is done as we're
well into the territory of guessing. 

 

Previously T and Optus were going to give up 100% of their IP related HFC
revenue under the existing agreements. I *doubt* they give a shit if NBN Co
tries to do a few fibre drops down a street to lower end user contention (at
the last mile, while leaving massive contention at the network core lulz).
The Commonwealth can't reneg on the existing commitments, but they can
certainly drag their feet and make life damned hard for the telcos. I
suspect they will want settlement under existing terms as expeditiously as
possibly for the sake of their shareholders/continued employment. 

 

We will see what happens. Either way, I'm nonplussed.

 

BTW, bonus points for the nice dodge on my last post about iiNets likely
invoices from NBN Co. As Ken says, it is kind of like climate change when
you think about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

 

No, really. 

 

David. 

 

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