In regards to a sample app, Xamarin has a huge amount on their github and
docs website. The Store app is a good sample,
https://github.com/xamarin/xamarin-store-app

But I can't think of a production app that's opensource. Actually just
found this
<http://motzcod.es/post/99906299427/announcing-bike-now-on-android-for-seattles>,
it's in production https://github.com/jamesmontemagno/BikeNow.





On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Man that Droid emulator sucks, try Geny motion it's a better emulator.
>
> Yes you pay for Xamarin, but think about the other side of that. The more
> money they make the more money they have to build better tools, and you
> don't want your product vendor in financial difficulties.
>
> The trial is great as it's actually fully featured for 30 days. The
> starter edition is the one that's useless.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 25, 2014, Greg Keogh <g...@mira.net> wrote:
>
>> Xamarin certainly is the hottest thing on the plate recently, popping up
>> in news and discussions everywhere. I feel compelled to become familiar
>> with it just to keep myself viable. Last April I downloaded and fired-up
>> the full Android SDK but despite several hours of suffering I couldn't even
>> get the Hello World app to run (due to emulator problems). I haven't
>> gathered the courage to return to that suffering and overcome it, so I
>> might as well discard it and learn something more generally useful, like
>> Xamarin ... and best of all it's C# instead of Java.
>>
>> I would like to create a simple demo app for phones or iPad that gets XML
>> from a web service and shows it as a table or chart, which could generate
>> some interest in "real" development. However I notice on the Pricing Page
>> <https://store.xamarin.com/> that $1000/year for the "Business" level,
>> which is pretty steep for a one man business who just wants to try it out.
>> The FAQ says software built in trial mode is crippled or splashed. I also
>> see that you variously need iOS, Google and Android SDKs installed, which
>> is a huge footprint. You need an OS X 10.8 machine to build for iOS. Fair
>> enough, but phew! Xamarin is expensive and has cruel trial system.
>>
>> *Greg K*
>>
>> On 25 October 2014 01:22, William Luu <will....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There's a free preview of a Xamarin Forms book being written by Charles
>>> Petzold if anyone is interested -
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2014/10/06/free-ebook-creating-mobile-apps-with-xamarin-forms-preview-edition.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> —
>>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice blog post... but if they had just used Xamarin their job would
>>>> have been alot easier.
>>>>
>>>> They wouldn't of had to write their own persistance layer, with Xamarin
>>>> you can use the Native SQLite instances. Their serious backend code eg
>>>> Offline, Caching, would have been able to use C# and the full .net
>>>> framework.
>>>>
>>>> Actually the project I'm working on at the moment is more complicated
>>>> than the dropbox app, more feature with offline support etc.... and I've
>>>> been able to implement as a single developer...
>>>>
>>>> For serious applications Xamarin is hands down the best!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM, William Luu <will....@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On a related note, Dropbox used C++ for their Android/iOS apps -
>>>>> http://oleb.net/blog/2014/05/how-dropbox-uses-cplusplus-cross-platform-development/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 October 2014 15:22, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ionicframework.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... but that said, Xamarin is pretty heavy weight, it's s big
>>>>>>> learning curve.. if you want something lightweight and 'pretty' good you
>>>>>>> should try out Ionic...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Michael Ridland <rid...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go Xamarin it's the best! (Opinion may be bias
>>>>>>>> www.michaelridland.com)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Traditional Xamarin (Native API) as the platform is awesome and
>>>>>>>> solid and fast, the IDE and some of the tools around it can be a bit 
>>>>>>>> buggy.
>>>>>>>> Xamarin.Forms is pretty early, and can be frustrating but I have build 
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> XPlat app pretty rapidly with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually I'm doing a 'Introduction to Xamarin' at SydMobile in a
>>>>>>>> few weeks, you should come along I'd love to answer any questions you 
>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/SydMobile/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Below is a unpublished blog post on why you should use Xamarin...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  *Should I use Xamarin for Mobile Development? YES you should!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my opinion you'd be insane if you didn't use Xamarin for mobile
>>>>>>>> development. Many people don't know what they're missing out on by not
>>>>>>>> using Xamarin so I'm going to highlight some reasons I think
>>>>>>>> people should be using Xamarin.
>>>>>>>> 1) It's Native but with 80%+ code share?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So for those that aren't aware of Xamarin or how it works, Xamarin 
>>>>>>>> allows
>>>>>>>> you to develop apps for iOS, Android and Mac from a single code base. 
>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>> I say this I don't mean in a webview or customised API, it actually
>>>>>>>> usesthe Native APIs. So when developing you use UITableView which
>>>>>>>> is the same API that a native developer would be using.
>>>>>>>> 2) C# and F# are Modern languages
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C# might not be the hipster language of the year it is a
>>>>>>>> continually evolving language with solid features like type 
>>>>>>>> interference,
>>>>>>>> dynamic types,  language integrated query (LINQ), async/await and first
>>>>>>>> class functions. C# is designed for developing large robust 
>>>>>>>> applications.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And for the functional types there's F#, which from what I've been
>>>>>>>> told it's like scala but faster and better thought out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd argue they're better languages than java, javascript and
>>>>>>>> objective-c... and seeing that they're currently the only languages 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> built in async you could say their even better than swift...
>>>>>>>> 3) async/await
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .. 'wait but javascript is all async' i hear you say...  C#/F#
>>>>>>>> async/await is different to what people normally think async is. C#/F#
>>>>>>>> async/await tackles the callback hell problems in rich clients, anyone 
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> works with rich clients will know of these problems. This is a problem
>>>>>>>> that's attempted to be solved with promises and generators but neither 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> at the level of async/await.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a little before/after sample:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Before:*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doAsync1(function () {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   doAsync2(function () {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      doAsync3(function () {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         doAsync4(function () {
>>>>>>>>       })
>>>>>>>>      })
>>>>>>>>    })
>>>>>>>> })
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *After:*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> await doAsync1()
>>>>>>>> await doAsync2()
>>>>>>>> await doAsync3()
>>>>>>>> await doAsync4()
>>>>>>>> 4) Watches, Google Glass wearables and the future of devices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In case you haven't noticed the future isn't just mobiles it's
>>>>>>>> wearables, devices and IOT. Xamarin has same day support for all
>>>>>>>> these platforms including android wear, google glass, Amazon TV and 
>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>> As I've said beforeXamarin uses the Native APIs and compiles down
>>>>>>>> to native so using Xamarin you're in the perfect position develop
>>>>>>>> all modern platforms.
>>>>>>>> 5) It's ready now!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the time I hear people say 'html is a fast moving target' or
>>>>>>>> 'it will get there eventually'. Xamarin is here now, it's Native
>>>>>>>> and it's cross platform. Why wait to have a great app when you can 
>>>>>>>> have it
>>>>>>>> now and as a bonus know that your application is future proof for 
>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>> devices.
>>>>>>>> 6) It's fast and stable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From personal experience the Xamarin traditional (Xamarin.iOS and
>>>>>>>> Xamarin.Android) platform is solid, fast and stable. You'd be hard
>>>>>>>> pressed to find a problem with the core parts of the platform, any app 
>>>>>>>> bugs
>>>>>>>> will probably be your own bugs.
>>>>>>>> 7) Documentation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The documentation for Xamarin is solid, it's generally better than
>>>>>>>> the Apple and Android documentation.
>>>>>>>> 8) Xamarin.Forms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So how about 100% codeshare and still be Native? Xamarin.Forms
>>>>>>>> allows you to program against a single API and have that single API 
>>>>>>>> mapped
>>>>>>>> to native controls on each platform. Hanselman describes it well, 
>>>>>>>> 'Write
>>>>>>>> Once Run Everywhere AND Be Native'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's still early days for the product but the top component
>>>>>>>> developers like Telerik and DevExpress are already developing 
>>>>>>>> components
>>>>>>>> for Xamarin.Forms.
>>>>>>>> 9) It's the best of all worlds (Hybrid and Native)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you've taken a look at my Xamarin mashup blog
>>>>>>>> <http://www.michaelridland.com/mobile/asp-net-mvc-xamarin-mashups/> 
>>>>>>>> you'd
>>>>>>>> already know that the possibilities with Xamarin are vast, you can
>>>>>>>> essential create your own Cordova and you can completely integrate it 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> your C# Mvvm/c# Native Code. So you have the full power of the .net
>>>>>>>> framework to build your client application architecture which becomes 
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> useful when you have complex requirements like Offline.
>>>>>>>> 10) Large Community
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Xamarin uses the .net framework and because of this it's inherited
>>>>>>>> the pre-existing community, this means that even though it's a fairly 
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> platform we already have support for Awesome projects like Json.net, 
>>>>>>>> Fody
>>>>>>>> and ReactiveExtensions/ReactiveUI.
>>>>>>>> 11) Profitable Innovative Company
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Xamarin as a company has a passion for enabling mobile developers
>>>>>>>> to deliver leading experiences. Their products cost money Yes but it's 
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> for us, I see many people complain about the pricing but Xamarin 
>>>>>>>> charging
>>>>>>>> money for products allows them to put money back into building amazing
>>>>>>>> products for us. This year at EvolveXamarin released some great
>>>>>>>> new products, a Analytics Cloud Service, a faster Android emulator and 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> performance profiler. In the future Xamarin is on the rise and
>>>>>>>> this means our tools are only going to get better and better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is why I choose Xamarin and I think you should too....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have any questions regarding Xamarin or need any help
>>>>>>>> please contact me I'm always happy to help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Stuart Kinnear <
>>>>>>>> stu...@skproactive.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've got a bit of free time so I'm starting to play around with
>>>>>>>>> mobile development and getting somewhat bewildered with the options 
>>>>>>>>> offered.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The dream is to knock up a business style app that will allow
>>>>>>>>> persistence of data to the local database eg. sqlite then a transfer 
>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>> base server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looked at Android dev kit, and that is OK but of course that
>>>>>>>>> strikes out Ios & Windows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looked at PhoneGap/Cordova and got infuriated by the simple task
>>>>>>>>> of posting data (jsonp is a bit of a security risk in my books)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Early last year I did play with Xamarin and found it unstable,
>>>>>>>>> crashing at a whim. Is it worth giving it another go, or should I 
>>>>>>>>> just suck
>>>>>>>>> it up and work on platform specific development tools.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Stuart Kinnear
>>>>>>>>> Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>>> acn. 81 072 778 262
>>>>>>>>> PO Box 6082 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Business software developers.
>>>>>>>>> SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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