Hi Greg

>> It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the 
>> brands

You almost can – check out Xamarin and particularly Xamarin Forms. Especially 
with the recent announcements (community edition of VS and the doubling of the 
size limits plus VS support on the Xamarin starter edition), this is a very 
affordable and extremely productive way to develop mobile apps across 3 major 
platforms.

Cheers

Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping 
Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • 
http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2014 8:32 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project

Hi Ian, Stephen at al, FYI I was loaned an Intel Mac for this specific phone 
job, and I put Windows 8.1 and VS2013.4 on it and the phone emulator runs fine 
with Hyper-V. I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that Windows Phone 
development is such a familiar experience if you already know WPF or 
Silverlight. It's all familiar XAML and coding patterns and almost all of the 
important class libraries are available and ready-to-go. All of the phone 
specific stuff is nicely separated and you can reference it when you feel the 
need. It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all 
the brands -- Greg

On 18 November 2014 17:17, ILT (O) 
<il.tho...@outlook.com<mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a  few people have used 
the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit Windows? But the 
VS2012 Express version is suitable.

I found this a good jump-off point - Developing Apps for Windows 
8<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx> 
- possibly the topic about requirements for the emulator is what you needed to 
see first, though.

I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 a few 
months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A beginners tool is 
called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial location again, 
here<http://appstudio.windows.com/en-us>.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria

-----Original Message-----
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project

Hi Ian (and Stephen),

No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work.

In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in

Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots

of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it

was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS

project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for

something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg*

On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O) 
<il.tho...@outlook.com<mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013?

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

> Ian Thomas

> Albert Park, Victoria

>

>

>

> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
> [mailto:

> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On 
> Behalf Of *Greg Keogh

> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM

> *To:* ozDotNet

> *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project

>

>

>

> Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've

> never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a

> bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I

> have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0

> and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should

> just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg

> K*

>

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