I have been using https://glitch.com/learn-to-code to lower the barrier to
hello world.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mike, are you having déjà vu again?
>
> I'm planning to write a blog post (when I get spare time) on what I
> discovered during recent research into writing a new browser app as an SPA,
> probably using Angular. There were two stunning revelations that shocked me
> so much that I feel confident to report them now.
>
> *1. The "library" codebase*
>
> I did mention this months ago, but it's worth repeating. I generated two
> "hello world" Angular projects using different commands, and each contained
> ~1.2 millions lines of JavaScript in ~20,000 files. For me this was a
> jaw-dropping shock, hinting that something's rotten on the starting blocks.
>
> *2. Complexity vs results*
>
> I watched 5 hours of a 10 hour long Pluralsight Angular course. How can a
> JavaScript course be that long? Now I know... conventions, components,
> templates, services, navigation, forms, validation, pipes, DI, observables,
> and so on. After 5 hours I realised something was rotting again. I stopped
> and realised that Angular is a monstrously over-engineered, overly complex
> behemoth which looks like some IT science student's graduation project. And
> just what is this beast for ... to write a friggin' app in a browser. Sure
> you can, but it's like building a palace out of sticky tape and matchsticks.
>
> So after all my research, I was expecting to find something alluring about
> JS development, but it's left me more shocked than before. I'm even
> disappointed by my disappointment!
>
> As an experiment, I used ASP.NET Web Forms with Bootstrap styles to write
> the basic demo app that we were planning to have done in Angular. It was
> completely working in 2 hours, and the boss likes it so much he's actually
> considering showing it to customers. The resulting project is familiar,
> simple, well-behaved, based on robust frameworks, and it only has about 25
> files in the whole solution. I think there's a lesson in that.
>
> *Greg K*
>

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