It may get worse: https://blog.rwts.com.au/apnic-under-threat/
On Wed, 1 Mar 2023, 14:54 David Connors via ozdotnet, <[email protected]> wrote: > You should be able to sell the /24 for $15-20 bucks an IP so I'd just pay > the fee then get a broker to market it for you and flog it off if you're > not using it. > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 12:55, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Your replies have confirmed the situation. I didn't realise a IPv4 >> hunt-and-reclaim was going on, and now they've found me, and I can't get >> off their radar, and they call the shots, and I'll have to roll over and >> give-up the range I used to own. If I don't join and pay then the range >> apparently becomes "disabled" from any use. So you have no choice but to >> surrender (or just hang on to the dead C block out of spite). If it cost >> $15 a year to keep the range then I'd pay (it's not even worth that), but >> *$500* ! >> >> In any other case I would call this theft and extortion. >> >> *Greg K* >> >> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 13:35, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yep, the major ISPs ran out of IPv4 space ages ago. I note that I can no >>> longer get an v4 IP when using any mobile service that has Telstra >>> underneath it. And of course that’s a world of entertainment for systems >>> that I need to connect to that have IP v4 allow lists. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m sure they’re mopping up all the class Cs as they can. I’ll bet they >>> did the class B and class A ones ages ago. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the end, whoever owns the routing at the upper levels gets to call >>> the shots. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr Greg Low >>> >>> >>> >>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile >>> >>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com | About Greg: >>> https://about.me/greg.low >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* David Connors via ozdotnet <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 March 2023 1:29 PM >>> *To:* ozDotNet <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* David Connors <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] APNIC charges for historical resources >>> >>> >>> >>> Greg, >>> >>> >>> >>> Historical objects were always free but they made you bring them into a >>> paid basis whenever you needed additional IP space or a new AS number or >>> something. That happened to us years ago. Once you're on that train you >>> can't get off. >>> >>> >>> >>> They must be rounding up the stragglers like you. :) >>> >>> >>> >>> David. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 07:41, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Folks, It's almost Friday... >>> >>> >>> >>> I just received an email from APNIC to tell me that a class C IP block >>> I've owned for 27 years is now under their control and I will be charged >>> $500/year to keep this *historical* resource that was created before >>> APNIC existed. See Maintenance Fee Change >>> <https://help.apnic.net/s/article/historical-fee-change>. Has anyone >>> else received a similar notification? >>> >>> >>> >>> My thoughts were: this is either kidnapping, extortion or a "protection >>> racket", or all three. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm reminded of the 1990s when Melbourne IT were effectively selling the >>> dictionary for a minimum ~$135 per domain name, and special words like >>> "realestate" or "sales" etc were up for the highest bidder at eye-watering >>> prices. Ah, the days of the Internet boom...! >>> >>> >>> >>> I'd like to write an official complaint about APNIC's money-grubbing >>> scam to someone, but who? The ACCC is a toothless tiger. There is a federal >>> ombudsman, but would APNIC be on their radar? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> *Greg K* >>> >>> -- >>> ozdotnet mailing list >>> To manage your subscription, access archives: >>> https://codify.mailman3.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> ozdotnet mailing list >>> To manage your subscription, access archives: >>> https://codify.mailman3.com/ >>> >> -- > ozdotnet mailing list > To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
