Dear Lieve Your messages to this list are always good. And your kind words about Australian midwives are appreciated. I think Belgian midwives are pretty special people too. I want to thank all who have shared their knowledge and beliefs about the flower 'remedies'. There are many things about which my knowledge is limited, and I see many midwives claiming knowledge in the fields of alternative therapies and other modes of healing.
I constantly struggle with our society's *need* to have treatments and therapies - and hence my sceptical response. I know this human body is imperfect, and can be very easily put into a cycle of illness and destruction. I think we feel compelled to interfere if we believe that by not interfering the outcome is likely to be bad, and that we can make it better. That's what a rescue is all about. In learning to be a midwife I have been learning about a woman's empowerment from within. By this I mean that I (the midwife) don't usually do the 'empowering' (or healing or treating or therapies). My presence should enable the woman's own inner knowledge to become freed up, and healing comes with that empowerment. I am constantly amazed and in awe when I see that this has happened. Sometimes the woman uses medicines of one sort or the other in her process of healing, but in the end there's a sense of (to quote Tao Te Ching): "the mother will rightly say, 'we did it ourselves'." Joy -----Original Message----- From: Lieve Huybrechts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy Hello Jenny, I work for a few years with the Bach Flower Remedys, for myself and my clients. They helped me a lot in the growing we all have to do and let me understand why we meet challenges. In childbirth I use them , but not standard at every pregnancy or birth, only when something unexpected happens, extreme fear with the mother,to heal a bad experience in previous birth, or to help a baby after a difficult birth. I had once a nice story. A single mother had a very difficult delivery in the hospital. The birth ended horribly with a difficult ventousse, that got of the head for three times. The baby's head was in asyncletisme and the gyn didn't allow it to turn. The baby needed oxygen after birth, the skin of the head was damaged and she had a large hematoom. We succeded to get the baby with us for a couple off minutes without anyone else. She was still so shocked she didn't try to drink at the breast. I gave her some rescue and also did some drops on the head (I hoped they wouldn't smell the cognac that is in) and massaged it softly into the damaged skin. Then the baby was taken away to the neonatal ward. Next morning the pediatrician (who also attended the birth ) came in with the baby and sayd: "I have never seen a baby recover so quickly after such an horrible birth." We could go home the same day. Dear Joy, I also read your comment and I agree what we say can have great power. But the flower remedys do work, the proof is easely given when you use it on young children, people that have Alzheimer and animals, often with great results. I attended the Paris conference off Midwifery Today. I met midwifes from over the world, also your collegues of Australia. I loved to be with them, to share storys, to learn from experiences. It was warm and beautifull to see that worldwide midwifes are standing up and struggle for their profession. We still have a long way to go and Belgium is just at the start of growth. Warm greetings Lieve -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.