Ric, I have come home in my lunch hour and riffled through my husband's numerous journals on his desk and found that journal article I referred to. It is "Popular Science' Vol 269 No.3. I will quote part of it for you: "Mostafa Fatemi of Minnesota's Mayo Clinic wondered why...fetuses always seem to move and stretch while their (ultrasound) picture is taken. He found out by placing a tiny hydrophone inside a woman's uterus during the procedure. The device registered up to nearly 100 decibels - as loud as a subway train. While we can't hear it, a fetus can, says Fatemi, because a "fetus's ears are filled with fluid, which is a better conductor of ultrasound waves than air.' There's currently no evidence showing that such noise is harmful, but Fatemi says clinicians may want to aim their ultrasound probes more carefully..." Why aren't medical and obstetric journals printing more of this research, I wonder? Food for thought, huh! Leanne.
>From: "Ricardo Herbert Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [ozmidwifery] A Train is Coming? >Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:47:25 -0300 > >Leanne: > >This is Ric from Brasil >Let me add some anedoctal thing I heard today in my office >Cristina, the doula and childbirth educator that works with me during >labors >(I'm an obstetrician in the extreme south of Brasil) told me that she was >surprised with what she listened in her last childbirth class. >Several pregnant clients said that they did a 3D ultrasound (new fashion in >obstetrics here, and I fear in Australia too) but will have to repeat it >next week. >Guess why? >All babies were with the hands in front of the face !!! >Why were they behaving that way? >Were they trying to "protect" themselves? >Like someone that is putting hands in front of the face because is hearing >a >"locomotive" coming !!! >Doctors that work with US use to say that babies "like" it, because they >move a lot during the exam? >Is it happines? Or is it desperation? >Or even fear? >I don't really know, but I while researcher are trying to find the answers >I >prefer no to expose my patients to that risk, and to respect the ears of >her >kids. >Please... does anyone knows something else about that? > >Kisses from Brasil !! > > >Ric >----- Original Message ----- >From: "leanne wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:12 PM >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound > > > > Dear All, > > I just wanted to add a note to your comment about the effect of >ultrasounds > > on a baby's hearing. Recently my husband pointed-out to me an article >about > > ultrasound that he came across in a Science journal. (he is a physics > > teacher) The article was speaking about some research designed to >discover > > why babies move so much during an ultrasound scan. They found that to >the > > baby the ultrasound waves are the volume of a locomotive train!! Is it >any > > wonder babies try to get away from it? I will ask him for the name of >the > > journal so I can post it on Ozmidwifery for everyone. > > Leanne, > > Midwife, Mildura Aboriginal Health Service. > > > > > > > > >From: "James & Stephanie Fairbairn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound > > >Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:19:24 +0930 > > > > > >Has anyone had a pregnant woman complain of heat or pain at the site of >a > > >rountine ultrasound? My friend was always very uncomfortable with U/S >and > > >said that the baby would always move as if to get away. This happened >in > > >both her pregnancies - although she never refused the treament as she >felt > > >it was 'part of the process of being pregnant that you couldn't refuse' > > >(she isn't a typically rebellious individual!!!) > > >I have heard discussions that postulate that U/S is responsible for >among > > >others::>>>: more left handers! - autism - cord tangling around limbs >and > > >neck (in the case that the baby moves abnormally to get away from the > > >source of discomfort) and auditory problems (to do with the stage of > > >hearing development and strength of wave used at the foetal age) - >Anyone > > >else heard this theory? > > >Steph.Adelaide. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:36 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/09/02 10:59:39 AM AUS Eastern Standard Time, > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like an interesting read. What does AIMS stand > > > for? Any idea when it was published (roughly)? > > > > > > Thanks, Jen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jen...AIMS stands for the Association for the Improvments In > > >Maternity Services ... > > > Ultrasound Unsound was published in 1993...as a special edition of >the > > >AIMS Journal...I have a copy on my bookshelf...I'll bring it to UNi on > > >Wednesday ....Doris Haire has also written extensively on the dangers >of > > >routine ultrasonography...published in AIMS Journal Vol 1..Number > > >4-5...."The Ultrasound Dilemma"....and Joan Donely...the wise woman in > > >NZ...has also written extensively warning women of the "unknowns of > > >ultrasound"..... > > > > > > Cheers Tina > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > >-- >This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. 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