My first baby was having nappy changed in hospital - approx. 3 days old, lying on back and choked on vomit. It wasn't until I was running around to the nurses station holding him face down along my arm that the vomit started coming out of nose and mouth and he was able to begin breathing again. After a traumatic birth and +10% weight loss - this really did my confidence in utterly. As a result was afraid to sleep him on his back for fear of choking on vomit, and even #2 baby has side slept pretty much all the time. This event also primed me for co-sleeping as I was afraid to leave him where I couldn't see him - the whole choking thing was silent.
Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl LHK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sleeping positions > I find this perpetual arguement from mothers (& fathers) within the hospital > system that if the midwives opinions and practices differ from each other - > the parents get terribly confused - and sleeping positions is one of them! > > The parents read and are told that back sleeping is the only way to go. > Then the midwives (myself included) place infants on their side, even after > the parents have put them in the cot on their back. And the parents > question - as they should. > > I'm talking purely night-duty here, having seen at least 3 babies post LUSCS > (in my short years) obstruct badly, it was very fortunate to say the least > that both of the midwives were literally outside the door doing the 'rounds' > at those wee hours of the night. Mum was post-surg and in an exhausted > sleep, didn't even realize that we had picked the baby up and after > immediate airway clearance still needed to literally run down the ward with > this baby navy blue in the arms to a resus cot & suction etc. All of these > babies were rugged up and on their back. So from bad experience, I ALWAYS > put them on their side. > > My own three children lie wherever the wind blows - in our bed, in the cot, > back, side and even rarely tummy. Their favourite spot is co-sleeping in > either my husbands or my arms though - and who could blame them!! > > Cheryl > > p.s. What do other hospitals policies and practice with post-LUSCS babies > in that first 12-24 hours. In bed with Mum, in cot beside Mum, in nursery, > with midwife ?? > > > > > > > >From: "Robyn Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sleeping positions > >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:57:40 +1100 > > > >Have witnessed this when visiting with the Maternal & Child Health Service, > >happened thank goodness right before our eyes. The young Dad responded > >quickly and cleared the baby's airway. I can talk at length about the > >problems associated with baby's sleeping on their backs. Will put some of > >my experiences on my website When? I can find the time. > > > >Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'a > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:11 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleeping positions > > > > > > cat among pigeons here -- suppose baby threw up while lying on back and > >choked? > > aviva, ducking > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: janet > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:53 PM > > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sleeping positions > > > > > > I agree that many women are afraid about placing their babies on their > > tummies - I think there is so much literature around about the SIDS > > recommended position to put babies to sleep on their back that they have > > to be reminded to allow "tummy time" during wake times. Also I heard > > that some children are ultimately suffering from misshapen heads, one > > woman was telling me that her son had to have a special helmet made to > > correct the shape of his head. Consequently when she had her second > > child she ignored the SIDS recommendations and placed her baby from side > > to side to sleep. > > Janet > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marilyn > > Kleidon > > Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 1:45 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] <no subject> > > > > I have noticed that mums are even afraid to put their babies on their > > tummies to tie up their nightie. I assure them it is ok and even > > beneficial > > for babies to spend time on their tummies, just that you need to be > > observing them. Of course I slept all of my girls on their tummies, but > > I > > was picky about having clear breathing space, I also used a NZ lambskin > > for > > all 3, but pulled a sheet tight across the area under their face. So, I > > am > > not surprised that babies may not spending enough time on their tummies > > to > > use their neck muscles, though I think it is a good idea that they sleep > > on > > their babcks, and am increasingly surprised at how easy it is to do > > this. > > marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lieve Huybrechts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:33 PM > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] <no subject> > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I don't know if this topic has been discussed in the group already, > > but it > > > interests me. The sleeping rules for babys (not on their tummy > > anymore) > > > causes a lot of problems with back and neck muscles of children 3-4 > > months > > > of age and later, because the parents are made so anxious that they > > even > > in > > > daytime don't put their baby on the tummy anymore. > > > On the website of midwifery today is a study (in Englisch :-)) > > > Baby's Bedding: Is It Creating Toxic Nerve Gasses? by Joanne B. Quinn, > > RMA, > > > PhD (http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/bedding.asp > > > > > > It's an New zealand and UK study. In our country it is unknown. Do > > you > > all > > > know more or have some toughts about it? > > > > > > Greetings > > > Lieve > > > > > > -- > > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > > --- > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/03 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. 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