Hi
Here's the MIDIRS abstract which concludes by recommending hands on.
Lesley
 A randomised controlled trial of care of the perineum during second stage of normal labour - British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology , vol 105, no 12, December 1998, pp 1262-1272 McCandlish R; Bowler U; van Asten H; et al - (December 1998)
  Objective: To compare the effect of two methods of perineal management used by midwives at the end of second stage on the prevalence of perineal pain reported by women at 10 days after birth. The methods compared were: 1. 'hands on', in which the midwife's hands are used to put pressure on the baby's head in the belief that flexion will be increased, and to support ('guard') the perineum, and to exert lateral flexion to facilitate the delivery of the shoulders. 2. 'hands poised', in which the midwife keeps her hands poised, prepared to put light pressure on the baby's head in case of rapid expulsion, but not otherwise to touch the head or perineum; the shoulders are allowed to deliver spontaneously. Design: Randomised controlled trial. Setting: Recruitment and data collection: Southmead Health Services NHS Trust, Frenchay Healthcare NHS Trust, Royal Berkshire and Battle Hospital NHS Trust, West Berkshire Priority Care Service NHS Trust, Severn NHS Trust, United Bristol Healthcare NHS Trust, Weston Area Health NHS Trust and Glan Hafren NHS Trust. Randomisation: Southmead Health Services NHS Trust, Bristol; and The Royal Berkshire and Battle Hospital NHS Trust, Reading; Sample: 5741 women who gave birth between December 1994 and December 1996 Eligibility and recruitment. During routine antenatal care midwives gave written information about the trial to pregnant women and discussed participation. A woman was eligible to participate if she had a singleton pregnancy with cephalic presentation, was expecting a normal birth and was not planning delivery in water, had not been prescribed an elective episiotomy, and did not plan to give her baby up for adoption. If all these criteria were fulfilled she was asked to give oral consent to join the trial. Women were assured of their right to withdraw from the trial at any time. Once a midwife had discussed the trial with a woman she attached a specially designed HOOP sticker to the woman's notes and if she was ineligible for any reason crossed it through. When a woman who was >/=37 weeks gestation and in established labour the midwife attending her re-checked eligibility and consent to take part. Randomisation: At the end of second stage, when the attending midwife was confident that a normal vagina] birth was likely, she opened the next in a series of sequentially numbered, sealed, opaque envelopes. This contained a card with details of the woman's randomisation group. Data collection: Attending midwives completed data collection forms for every woman who was randomised immediately after birth, at 2 days and at 9-11 days postnatally; each participating woman also self-completed a trial questionnaire at 2 days, 10 days and at 3 months after birth. Results: Questionnaires were completed by 97% of women at 10 days after birth. 910 (34.1 %) women in the 'hands poised' group reported pain in the previous 24 hours compared with 823 (31.1%) in the 'hands on' group RR= 1.10 95% Cl 1.01 to 1.18: absolute difference 3%, 0.5% to 5%, p=0.02). The rate of episiotomy was significantly lower in the 'hands poised' group (RR 0.79, 99% Cl 0.65 to 0.96, p=0.008) and the rate of manual removal of placenta was significantly higher in that group (RR 1.69, 99% Cl 1.02 to 2.78; p = 0.008). There were no other statistically significant differences detected in any outcomes measured. Conclusion: Women in the 'hands on' group reported significantly less perinea] pain than those in the 'hands poised' group. Although this finding related mainly to mild pain at 10 days afterbirth, it has the potential to affect large numbers of women. In the light of this evidence, a policy of 'hands poised' care is not recommended. If 'hands poised' care is used then audit of important outcomes, for example relating to third stage, should be maintained; a policy of 'hands on' care merits audit of episiotomy rates. The majority of women who give birth in the UK experience a range of direct midwifery interventions during normal labour. Such routine care affects huge numbers of women and must be based on reliable assessment of risks and benefits. In this trial thousands of women and hundreds of midwives committed themselves to help answer questions about the effects of alternative perineal management methods. Thanks to their efforts the results provide reliable evidence to inform balanced decisions about which of the perineal methods evaluated is best for women and midwives. (MIDIRS abstract written by Rona McCandlish).
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

I am confused by this discussion so hoping for some clarification! My understanding of the results of the HOOP trial was that it favoured the use of Hands On - a finding that the midwives in the UK were surprised by. I had read summaries that clearer pointed out an improvement in perineal outcomes with a hands on approach. Was there re-analysis carried out that found the opposite to be true? It sounds from this discussion that the HOOP trial is now being said to have favoured hands off. Can someone help?
 
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Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

Actually Mary, if you want to get your hands on, the only position you can't is water birth (unless you are in the tub too (joke)) and possibly a deep squat.  We used the deBuy birth stool a lot there and trust me, you can definetly get your hands on. By hands on i am not meaning anything beyond perineal support (which as the article discusses is favoured by US midwives), and a gentle hand on the baby's head (not really doing much). Mum's (mom's) I attended in the USA truly expected this, perineal support especially is promoted in birth literature there. This means the midwife is also in many and varied positions.  I know it isn't usually done here, I don't know for how long it hasn't been done: before or after the Hoop trial?  It will be interesting to see what the outcomes of this study are, especially to see if it leads to practice change. By this  I mean if the study supports "hands off", then will US midwives change their practice? And if it supports "hands on" will Australian and Uk midwives change theirs?  Or will we have to do a repeat study here? Possibly the result will be ambiguous and claim there is no significant difference betweeen practices and so no change will happen anywhere. Interesting that's all.
 
marilyn
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

Marilyn Wrote.  I must admit after my training in the USA it has been hard to do and I am definetly more "hands on" than "hands off".
 
I find discussions about hands on and off interesting, given that if a woman is birthing in a pysiological position, (upright squat, hands and knees or kneeling leaning forward), there is nowhere for a midwife's hands to be except in the "catch" position, especially if a woman is birthing in water.  I wonder if all this discussion and trials  would be going on if birth was truly in the hands of women?  MM
 
 

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