It did, but it was a surgically constructed orifice. And these surgically constructed orifices are becoming more and more part of women's plastic (able to be changed/moulded/constructed/deconstructed/reconstructed) bodies.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:49 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Response from Today Show > > But the baby didn't come out of an orifice. > > Claire Saxby > > >From: "Dierdre Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [ozmidwifery] Response from Today Show Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 > >19:32:00 +1000 > > > >Seems if you leave your letters till later you get better bites. This was > >Tracey Grimshaws response to my email. It's a beauty. > >Dierdre B. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: TCN Today Show > >To: Dierdre Bowman > >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:11 PM > >Subject: RE: Live Caesarean > > > > > >Dear Dierdre, > > > >You have put very reasoned arguments to support your contention that CS > >births are overused. > > > >It is an argument that we have explored and aired on our program many times > >in recent years, and during our program last week, we spoke to a midwife on > >that very point. > > > >You do not, however, support your accusation that we "did nothing but tell > >women it is okay to have cs for no medical reason". > > > >First, the program was about birth.period. > > > >Specifically about the arrival of the 20 millionth Australian, however and > >whomever that was. > > > >It was NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT ON BIRTHING METHODS.though we acknowledged > >the debate. > > > >The special moment was young Tom Cooper's arrival into the world.and to be > >honest, it was truly wonderful.regardless of by which orifice he emerged. > > > >Of course it would have been impossible to schedule a vaginal delivery > >"live" during a 3 hour window. Babies don't work to deadlines. > > > >And it was the "live broadcast" element that we wanted to share with our > >viewers.the excitement of seeing something happen for the first time, > >before anyone else has seen it, before your eyes. > > > >Tom was going to arrive cs regardless of whether we were there or not.we > >simply took an amazing opportunity. > > > >It is a shame that the extreme end of the anti cs debate has sought to > >hijack that moment for its own end. > > > >But back to your accusation: we explained repeatedly that Tom's mum Liane > >had a history of complex reproductive problems. > > > >Her first baby was born by cs several days after her waters broke and > >doctors were unable to induce labour. > > > >She sought the best medical advice she could get, and made an informed > >decision not to have that happen again. > > > >While I respect opinions like yours I have been shocked and horrified by a > >minority of people who have accused her of being "less than a mother";"too > >posh to push" etc. > > > >This rush to judge others simply because they have the temerity to make a > >choice that differs with one's own is an ugly side of human nature. > > > >Opinions are a right.they should not be a weapon. > > > >We did not tell anyone it was okay to have a cs for no medical reason. > > > >But frankly I do not presume the right to tell anyone how they should make > >one of the biggest decisions of their lives. Nor to judge them on it. > > > >Regards, > > > >Tracy Grimshaw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dierdre Bowman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2003 12:24 PM > >To: TCN Today Show > >Subject: Live Caesarean > >Importance: High > > > > > > > >Over the past few days I have tried to come to grips with your show on the > >live caesarean birth. I am a midwife who constantly sees women who have > >been devastated by their experience with caesarean section (C/S). While I > >agree that for some women 10-15% C/S is an absolutely necessary and life > >saving event, it is an outrage that this story has gone to air in the > >context it has. > > > > > > > >The c/s rate in this country, is out of control. Research is now revealing > >that this operation may have long term effects especially on the emotional > >wellbeing of the mother. The world health organization recommended that the > >C/S rate should not be higher than 10-15% in ANY geographical area. Why > >then do we in Australia have rates from between 20 and 50%. Please don't > >tell me that 1/4 to 1/2 the population of Australian women are unable to > >birth vaginally. I have seen mother and babies with sliced bladders and > >parts of the baby cut because of C/S. Women who for months after suffer > >server pain as a result of infection and babies born with respiratory > >distress as a result of C/S performed when the baby was SUPPOSE to be full > >term only to discover it was premature!!!!!!! > > > > > > > >I am a victim of two unnecessary caesareans and having a previous C/S is > >NOT a valid reason for having another. In fact in order to escape the knife > >the third time I had to birth at home with a midwife. The only person who > >would fight for my rights. Mothers and infants are at double to three > >times the risk of Death having a c/s than a vaginal delivery. We are > >working very hard as mothers and midwives to turn around this potentially > >disastrous situation. Your show has done nothing but tell women it's ok to > >have C/S for no medical reason. This is not OK. In fact your show has left > >consumers of birthing groups and organizations as well as the midwives who > >attend them outraged. You really need to do some careful thinking before > >you air something based on the opinions of an obstetrician who's primary > >concern appears to be his star qualities as a performer instead of what > >should be his role. Promoting what is safe and best for women and babies. > > > > > > > >I would have second thoughts about watching your show again! > > > >Dierdre Bowman > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
