Re: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth

[Mr francis bowman]

Wondered if anyone had seen the latest edition of new idea. One of the Brisbane mums campaigning for birth reform is featured.  She had a terrible experience and has been left partially paralysed and unable to urinate without a catheter.   There is also 3 or 4 other stories about caesareans that went terribly wrong.  As usual our local Ob comes to the defense of Dr's and their right to perform a Csection on women if they want one.  He also has a go at Maternity Coalition claiming that we force our beliefs onto women. It frustrates me no end.  Thank God for birthing women who know it can be different.   Dierdre B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Slater To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth Jo   Yes it is the current edition (despite its name the women's weekly is actually monthly :-))   It's a very good piece - no she didn't actually birth at home, but transferred in after labouring for most of the time at home.  But once in, she requested low lights etc..   Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth Hi Nic, I had a look on the stand when waiting in the shopping centre queue today and couldn't find the Kate Ceberano interview. Was it this weeks? Did she have a homebirth? How are those bubs of yours? Jo x From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole Christensen Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth I have just finished reading an article in the Women's Weekly on ' Kate Cebrano's quiet birth'.....which describes her belief re. labour & birth, which they tie to her Scientology, that labour and birth be a gentle, peaceful, quiet experience.... my first thoughts were quite positive... yet, I wonder when she states "but you don't want to scream out to that effect at all" and "screaming and yelling might be your primary urge, and completely natural, but what your'e trying to avoid is any suggestion that there's trouble at hand". Does this mean moaning and growling too??? Overall, I think the article is positive in the fact that it highlights natural birth.... but just wonder what others think - regarding her belief on women holding back from being noisy ?? I don't think that being quiet whilst in labour is a bad thing if mother decides this at time of labour.... but wonder about pre-conceived ideals PRIOR to labour... which prevent her from groaning etc if she would normally feel comfortable in doing so. look forward to your thoughts... cheers, Nicole ps. I quite like Kate Cebrano - so I'm not anti her... AND I was quiet during the birth of my first baby - BUT this was after a noisy 24 hour labour.... 4 hours of pushing.... and really due to complete exhaustion.....(and wasn't a premeditated thing).