Thanks to everyone for their useful contacts and info.
 
Helen Cahill
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean & Jo
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Request for information on current models ofmidwiferyled care

Dear Helen,
you could get in contact with Roz Donnellen-Fernandez, Anne Nixon, Chris Cornwell or Moyra Lewis all from Adelaide and all very invloved with the set up of the midwifery group practice at Women's and Children's. They might be able to offer some information or feedback on some of your questions.
Just contact W&CH 08 8161 7000 and ask for any of the above.
cheers Jo
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Request for information on current models of midwiferyled care

Seeking a bit of information please...
 
In the process of MOs arguing against midwives working as primary carers in normal healthy low risk pregnancies, I have known them to come out with comments such as:
  
"What if they (the midwives) don't act on a problem and the doctor only becomes involved when the s...t hits the fan........then who's fault is it???"
"Midwives aren't qualified to make the decision about when things are outside the normal"
"Medical indemnity insurers will stop insuring hospitals if a doctor is not in charge"
"The perinatal mortality rates would increase!"
 
 
I know that midwives act as primary carers in NZ, Holland and even in WA.  They are also primary care givers in various midwifery models throughout Australia.   But I don't have knowledge of the intricacies about truly midwifery-led models to use as ammunition.
 
I do know that midwives are quite able to distinguish between the normal and abnormal  and if they don't refer someone on as necessary, they should be and are held responsible as part of their registration requirements/code of ethical behaviour. 
 
When responding to such criticisms against midwives, I also like to make comparisons between GPs and Specialists.  Just because a GP misses something or behaves negligently, we don't say "that's it" everyone has to go straight to see a specialist as GPs can't be trusted!!!!!  But this seems to be the case when comparing midwives to doctors/specialists. 
 
For my own knowledge and to assist me in my future responses to such criticisms, can anyone tell me the following:
 
1.  Medical indemnity status of midwives working in New Zealand - my understanding of it is that they work under the control of the health department and
 
2.  If anyone gets sued it is the hospital/health service.  Is this correct?
 
3.  If the hospital is successfully sued, where does the money come from if a huge payout is granted.  My understanding is that taxpayers all contribute somehow to a government fund for such purposes. 
 
4.  Do all the women see a doctor at the beginning of pregnancy to be screened as low or high risk or does the midwife screen them and refer them on if needed.
 
5.  Do all women see a doctor in labour on admission or do the midwives totally provide the support/care with medicos only being called if there is a problem.
 
6.  What are the comparisons between perinatal mortality and caesarian rates between countries with midwifery led care and Australia - I've heard they are lower but don't have any research to back my claims. 
 
I know I could search the net all day to find out the above answers but as we have so much combined knowledge on this list I decided to try here first.
 
Thanks in advance
 
 
Helen Cahill
 
 
 
 
 
 

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