Re: [ozmidwifery] doula article

[Callum & Kirsten]

I think i have to agree with you Denise. In NZ where the maternity system is different to here in Australia, and there is more woman centered midwifery care there are no doulas that i know of. In fact one of my lecturers at Auckland University of Technology, told us one day that Doulas were a threat to midwives and their role. To me (and i may be naive) that's what care/support i expect to give as a midwife.   I also think the reason woman need doulas should also be brought up in the article, as a kiwi and a student midwife i am really intrigued.   I hope you look into it Kylie. Certainly also why australia needs them when NZ a different maternity system doesn't. Maybe it does say something about the current system?   Kirsten Darwin ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula article Dear Jo, Interesting where are these women to birth?   With the women's family members sounds like quite a group at each of the labours and births?   My experience of the most satisfying birthing expereinces for all has been at home when the woman has turned in and worked with her baby more than any one or any thing in the environment and the hormones have flowed the labour has progressed and it has been her resultant behaviour which the midwife and partner have tuned into and worked around also!! for example I think of several births where the Primp couple have been together in the toilet or bathroom alot of the time with the lights down low in the hall where I was except when I came to listen to the baby after listening to her sounds and knowing she is progressing or not and then making suggestions, giving feedback between contractions and rest periods.   Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean & Jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula article Hi Denise, I am doulaing with three women who are accessing one on one midwifery care also (not to mention the students they are having follow them too!)  I suppose it is up to the individual woman.  Some want the midwife there for the birth but want the doula there for moral support and support for her partner, other children or just for her.  Despite the fact that midwives -especially the independant ones- offer this type of care when it comes to the crunch, there is a job for her to do and sometimes her focus is shifted from supporting the hubby or even the woman -eye to eye back rubbing etc- due to the clinical skills being required.  Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula article Dear Kylie I am going to paly devil's advocate and ask if yoyr article will talk of the pros and cons of Doula's?   For example I and others see the increase and popularity of Doula's as a reflection of the lack of the women cenrtred-ness of the system and world's best practice 1-2-1 midwifery options, I am not aware of women who have the latter employing doula's.   My exeprience is that such women and their families feel confident to get on with the pregnancy labour, birth and psot natal time themselves with their midwives as the only paid supports? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead ----- Original Message ----- From: Kylie Carberry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:04 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] doula article Hi everyone Wellbeing mag would now like me to do an article on doulas, also for the baby special.  I have a couple of doulas to talk to and am looking at adding the thoughts of a hospital based midwife who has seen the benefits of doulas in the labour ward. Let me know if anyone would like to help out.   Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist PH: 02 42970115 m: 0418 220 638 a: 21 Susan Ave, Warilla, NSW 2528 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Feeling spent? Apply here for emergency plastic surgery. Virgincreditcard.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. __________ NOD32 1.858 (20040901) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com