Hi Abby
I think you would find that homeopathy and naturopathy and the like could be
incorporated into the program and also through assignments. Midwives and
midwifery lectureres are often blown away by the insightful information
students often uncover in the course of their studies and experiences. In
BMid and Grad Dip programs (and even in the 'old days' of hopsital-based
programs!!) students are encouraged to research areas of particular interest
to them and often to present their findings to their group and facilitators
as a teaching/learning session. This is when  many fascinating topics are
brought up and new insights into these areas are provided. I appreciate your
concern, and you have made a valid point, I just wanted to say that there is
always room for movement and growth, and it can come from anywhere. The
areas you refer to take lifetimes of study for those who specialise in them,
and it is often by looking for information about something in which you are
interested, that you develop an even greater passion and understanding.The
universities will always ask students to evaluate the program, so here is
also anther avenue.

Yes, as you say, it still is medical, and while the focus is on medicalised
birth (in real life) and not on birth as something WOMEN do, then there will
always be shortcomings (to the detriment of women). I get frustrated because
students come to the unit where I work for 'alternative' "clinical"
practicum time. We need to get rid of the 'clinical' label, as part of
culture change, and I resent what women do, and the midwives and doctors
supporting them, as being labelled 'alternative' (even feral). It may not be
mainstream, but it is what women want, (so, dare I say it!) ought to be. I
think you will find that there will be a focus on pregnancy, labour and
birthgiving as normal, natural life events, and that many of these topics
will come up in the course of dicussions over the program.

And while no program is perfect, and cannot possibly provide everything for
everybody, students are encouraged to look for answers to the questions they
have beyond what programs cover to broaden their own knowledge base and to
encourage critical thinking. Universities offering a Midwifery program
strive to provide one that is comprehensive, and will hopefully meet the
needs of the students, enabling them in turn to be with and care for women
as beginning practitioners, each with a lifetime of further learning and
growing to do, as they embark on practicing their unique art and craft.

We need always to question, Abby, the way you do. Don't ever stop asking,
questioning, reasoning. It's what drives us onwards, and encourages much in
the way of growth.

Warm regards, Lynne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:51 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] BMid Info Session


> Hi,
>
> Today I attended the information session for the direct entry BMid at UTS.
> Sounded interesting, lots of people there, but I must admit I was
> disappointed to learn the NO "alternative" therapies will be taught. No
> herbs or anything. I find it so hard to accept that, in a course teaching
> about "natural" birth,  "alternative" things can't be taught because they
> are apparently not evidence based but all medical interventions will be
> taught??
> Sorry to rehash this subject I really don't want to get in another
arguement
> about it. I went with a positive outlook and came away very disappointed.
I
> find it hard to understand how learning to "facilitate" natural birth
would
> include all medical interventions, but not all the natural tools we can
use.
>
> How can student midwives learn to really be "with woman" if they are not
> given a chance to learn all the skills involved? To me it does still seem
so
> medical.
>
> I really believe that the proof is there with "alternative" therapies,
maybe
> just not the type of "evidence" that the medical professionals will
accept.
>
> I really am feeling so disappointed as I was excited to go and see what
was
> happening and maybe even get a little more tempted to study midwifery
here,
> but now I just feel disillusioned.
>
> Love Abby
>
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