Re: [ozmidwifery] gestational diabetes and antenatal ebm

[mh]

This is the TRiGR trial; it's multi centred, co-ordinated from I think 
Norway- a Scandinavian country anyhow. We are participating where I work 
though we haven't had any mothers come through yet. It sounds really 
fascinating but it's a 10 year follow up so no good looking for immediate 
information.
Monica
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From: "Sandra J. Eales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:00 PM
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Marilyn
There might not be much on expressing antenatally, but there is quite a 
bit of research on the increased risk of children developing type1 
diabetes if they are exposed to cow's milk.  In fact I heard just the 
other night on the news that there is a multi centre study going on - they 
were trying to recruit pregnant women or babies where one parent was 
diabetic.. hoping to follow 6000 kids. I don't recall the details of where 
it was being done though.
Sandra

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From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:56 AM
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Way to go Denise, I totally agree. However, am part of a working group 
for
BFHI reaccreditation and was asked to find the evidence. So, I was just
wondering if there was some that I had missed.

marilyn
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From: "Denise Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:41 PM
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Hi Marilyn
I won't swear to it but I don't know that there is any research out 
there
on this practice. However to give newborns their own mother's milk is
kinda
natural and not really something that we need research to prove is a 
good
thing do we? Wouldn't it be more to the point to ask those who are 
giving
newborns something other than breastmilk to come up with the evidence to
prove that what they are doing is not detrimental?? I'd like to see that
... could have them running around in circles for years trying to find
anything to support that practice as opposed to giving mother's own
colostrum.
All you really need proof of is that expressing antenatally won't put a
mother into preterm labor, which it won't and I'm sure you'll find 
plenty
out there on that - then ensure that the mothers know how to store and
transport their milk safely when the time comes.

There's lots more than just giving breastmilk though that can stabilise
the
newborn's glucose levels quickly and efficiently - starting with
undisturbed skin-to-skin on mother's chest from the moment of birthing.
I really do implore everyone to think long and hard before scampering
around trying to find research articles to prove what is normal and
natural
while practices using what is detrimental to
birthing/breastfeeding/whatever continue without questioning.  Please
consider looking the perpetrators in the eye and saying "First, do no
harm!
- your practice is not 'normal' - prove to me that it is doing no 
harm!!"

Cheers
Denise
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