Gentian violet is also known as crystal violet and is one of the stains used in the lab as part of the "gram stain". Haven't yet got its chemical name but will post it directly. Here is a list of journal articles on it especially in relation to thrush or candidiasis. Please note if you have a thrush infection that wont heal with regular antifungals is is suggested to actually culture the yeast and get the species of candida identified. There are several other than albicans and not all are cured by the same azole. One of the offending species is Candida glabrata (i think) and if my memory is working fluconazole works much better than miconazole on this one. I have nothing personally against gentian violet, i just think we should actually know what it is. It is effective but so was mercurochrome (which I wore liberally on my gravel rashed knees as a child) and it is of the same generation of ointments.
marilyn
the articles:
1. Utter AR. Related Articles, Links
Gentian violet treatment for thrush: can its use cause breastfeeding
problems?
J Hum Lact. 1990 Dec;6(4):178-80. No abstract available.
PMID: 2271112 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
2: Utter AR. Related Articles, Links
Gentian violet and thrush.
J Hum Lact. 1992 Mar;8(1):6. No abstract available.
PMID: 1558661 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
3: Wilson-Clay B. Related Articles, Links
More on thrush and the use of gentian violet.
J Hum Lact. 1991 Jun;7(2):58. No abstract available.
PMID: 1822987 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
4: Phillips V. Related Articles, Links
Is gentian violet safe?
J Hum Lact. 1993 Mar;9(1):7-8. No abstract available.
PMID: 8489730 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
5: Horsfield P, Logan FA, Newey JA. Related Articles, Links
Letter: Oral irritation with gentian violet.
Br Med J. 1976 Aug 28;2(6034):528. No abstract available.
PMID: 953673 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
6: Piatt JP, Bergeson PS. Related Articles, Links
Gentian violet toxicity.
Clin Pediatr (Phila). 1992 Dec;31(12):756-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 1451385 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
7: Leung AK. Related Articles, Links
Gentian violet in the treatment of oral candidiasis.
Pediatr Infect Dis J. 1988 Apr;7(4):304-5. No abstract available.
PMID: 3368270 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
8: Baca D, Drexler C, Cullen E. Related Articles, Links
Obstructive laryngotracheitis secondary to gentian violet exposure.
Clin Pediatr (Phila). 2001 Apr;40(4):233-5. No abstract available.
PMID: 11336425 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
9: Padhye AA, Thirumalachar MJ, Anjaneyulu R. Related Articles, Links
Incidence of oral thrush in newborn-infants during 1960 to 1962 at
Sassoon Hospitals, Poona, and a comparative evaluation of treatment with
some antifungal agents.
Hindustan Antibiot Bull. 1967 Feb;9(3):143-51. No abstract available.
PMID: 6044459 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
10: Pessah A, Ofosu JR, Klein BL. Related Articles, Links
Conjunctival staining and corneal and conjunctival abrasions caused by
2% aqueous gentian violet solution.
Pediatr Emerg Care. 1998 Aug;14(4):285-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 9733255 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
11: Koranyi G, Prohhaszka E. Related Articles, Links
[Use of methyl partricin suspension in the oral diseases due to Candida
species]
Arch Sci Med (Torino). 1975 Apr-Jun;132(2):79-82. Italian.
PMID: 1221983 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
12: Suprihatin SD, Kartanegara D, Pauntu A, Damayanti A. Related
Articles, Links
Nystatin in the treatment of candidiasis.
Paediatr Indones. 1969 Jan-Feb;9(1):13-6. No abstract available.
PMID: 5347470 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
13: Johnstone HA, Marcinak JF. Related Articles, Links
Candidiasis in the breastfeeding mother and infant.
J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs. 1990 Mar-Apr;19(2):171-3.
PMID: 2319366 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
14: Drinkwater P. Related Articles, Links
Gentian violet--is it safe?
Aust N Z J Obstet Gynaecol. 1990 Feb;30(1):65-6. No abstract
available.
PMID: 2346454 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
15: Swart EL, van der Waal I. Related Articles, Links
[Use of methylrosaniline (gentian violet) to treat candidiasis]
Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd. 2004 Apr 3;148(14):688. Dutch. No abstract
available.
PMID: 15106322 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
16: Zabala Egurrola JA, Pertusa Pena C, Arruza Echevarria A, Llarena
Ibarguren R, Arregui-Erbina P, Errasti Olartecoechea G. Related Articles,
Links
[Glans penis necrosis secondary to gentian violet treatment]
Arch Esp Urol. 1989 Oct;42(8):800-2. Spanish.
PMID: 2533476 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
17: Harris MJ. Related Articles, Links
Gentian violet.
Med J Aust. 1991 Jun 3;154(11):782. No abstract available.
PMID: 2046587 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
18: Sommer G, Happle R. Related Articles, Links
[Necroses following the use of Pyoktanin]
Hautarzt. 1977 Feb;28(2):92-3. German.
PMID: 845034 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
19: Jensen PS, Holst E. Related Articles, Links
[Oral candidosis. A review of the literature and a retrospective study
of 91 patients]
Ugeskr Laeger. 1969 Jul 17;131(29):1229-39. Danish. No abstract
available.
PMID: 5811512 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
20: Kim SJ, Koh DH, Park JS, Ahn HS, Choi JB, Kim YS. Related
Articles, Links
Hemorrhagic cystitis due to intravesical instillation of gentian violet
completely recovered with conservative therapy.
Yonsei Med J. 2003 Feb;44(1):163-5.
PMID: 12619193 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Gentian Violet?
> Because it is an old remedy many people think or assume it is herbal in
> origin, but it actually is of the heavy metal group of agents. If you are
> into colloidal silver and other treatments of this nature then it is
> effective, but as with other heavy metal agents there is a level of
> biotoxicity and retention in the system. As Joy said, Dr. Jack Newman's
site
> does recommend it for thrush. I will look up what the metal is and post it
> later. There is a herb: Gentian lutea that is used but not for this (mouth
> ulcers and/or thrush).
>
> marilyn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Gentian Violet?
>
>
> > also be careful to use AQUEOUS gentian violet - if it has spirit in, it
> will
> > "burn"
> >
> > Pinky
> > www.pinky-mychild.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nicole Carver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Gentian Violet?
> >
> >
> > > Gentian violet is very effective at treating thrush, particularly
nipple
> > > thrush. I tend to use Daktarin gel for the baby. The concerns about
> > > carcinogenic effects of gentian violet have been deemed to be over
> > > reactive
> > > by many, and so some people prescribe gentian violet for mother and
> baby.
> > > If
> > > your sister is breastfeeding she needs to treat her nipples too, even
if
> > > asymptomatic. Thomas Hale has a book, I think it is called medications
> and
> > > mothers milk or something like that(!) It is used by many lactation
> > > consultants, but it is difficult to purchase. Some people buy it from
> > > their
> > > vet! However, you have to be careful to get the correct strength. A
> > > lactation consultant can help with this.
> > > Nicole C
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 8:28 AM
> > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Gentian Violet?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> can anyone help me in locating info about the dangers of gentian
> violet?
> > > It
> > >> was my understanding that in Oz we stopped recommending it quite some
> > >> time
> > >> ago because of some dangers?? My sister in America has been told to
use
> > >> it
> > >> on her 4 week old daughter for thrush. Any info, especially online
that
> I
> > >> can access and email straight to her would be great.
> > >> Please correct me if I'm wrong or if you have other ideas about the
> > > benefits
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Love Abby
> > >>
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