----- Original Message -----
From: "Lindsay & Yvette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.
> Thanks Jo, that's really good to know just in case that happened to me.
> I'll mention possible cord prolapse to the midwife & Ob when I see them
> next.
>
> Gloria I've seen that website, & seen the stills & read the birth story
> though not bought the DVD. I've seen another DVD of a planned twins
> homebirth in Melbourne of boy/girl twins, where the second baby was
> breech, and it's truly inspiring. The babies were born into water &
> both
> so alert, calm & healthy looking. The website for that one is
> http://www.womenofspirit.asn.au/welcome.html
>
> My website for this pregnancy is
> http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/t/twingirlslb/
> where I've been keeping a journal.
>
> Yvette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lindsay & Yvette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.
>
>
>> Hi Yvette,
>>
>> I hate hate hate conveying less good outcomes on a list like ozmid (or
>> at
>> all for that matter) so I nearly didn't send this. A friend of mine
>> who
>> had two previous text book natural births was pregnant with identical
>> twins in separate sacks for her third pregnancy, she fought very hard
>> to
>> organise at least the opportunity to birth in her hospitals birth
>> center - if she made it to term then she was to birth in the birth
>> center
>> and she alternated her appts with the birth center midwives and her
>> assigned OB (who was the head of obstetrics). At her 34 week appt her
>> OB
>> started saying that he thought she would definitely need a ceaser
>> because
>> of her twins position (transverse and facing each other) but they
>> would
>> wait one more week to be sure. 2 days later her waters broke with full
>> cord prolapse at home. With a combination of instinct and what she had
>> learned at our EXCELLENT yoga classes she shoved the cord back in and
>> got
>> in the knees chest position (butt in the air head on the !
>> ground).
>>
>> When the ambos came (they were there within 10 mins) they tried to
>> force
>> her to lie down on the trolley thing for the trip to hospital and her
>> husband had a screaming argument with them on the street to the effect
>> that lying on her back would kill the babies and she was NOT under any
>> circumstances going to lie down so they could either take her in the
>> knee
>> chest position or he would drive her in that position in their own
>> car.
>> The ambos gave in. She had a ceaser under general literally 3-4 mins
>> after arrival in the hospital (the closest to her, not her hospital of
>> choice) and both boys were ok but the OB that did the ceaser told her
>> that she saved her babies lives by refusing to lie down for the
>> ambos...
>> So good outcome in the end but very scary and not the birth she had
>> hoped
>> for. Also once her waters broke and contractions started the
>> contractions
>> locked the babies together in their transverse positions and neither
>> baby
>> could move down, she could not have birthed vaginall!
>> y so the transverse position caused prolapse and prevented her babies
>> from moving down, it was all round a bad thing for her.
>>
>> I have been reading your story with interest and cannot tell you how
>> much
>> I hope that your babies turn and you get the birth you want. I guess I
>> just wanted to be sure you were aware of the cord prolapse risk if
>> your
>> waters break while both twins are transverse. The knee chest position
>> will slow labour down if anything can and takes as much pressure off
>> the
>> cervix as possible so it is a good thing to know in a precipitous
>> labour
>> that you need to slow down.
>>
>> Take care!
>> Jo
>>
>
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