Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

[Denise Hynd]

I would not be surprised if she was full of fear so her hormones were out of kilter Then I wonder if she was also on the bed and obstructing her outlet .........   Whereas the couple with the midwife were relaxed confident and kneeling supported so given a good go   Pity there are no water emersion facilities at Ryde!!   Denise Hynd   "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."   — Linda Hes ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" The couple who had ob care and had a 38hr labour and ended up with forceps   What were the reasons for this? Was she induced? Did she have an epidural? How long did he ‘allow’ her to push before he thought it necessary to pull the baby out?   I though you were wonderful Sally, and I had to giggle a little when he was going on at the conference and I could see Nicky Leap in the background with her head in her hands. It certainly is hair pulling stuff!   Cheers   Jo   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Anne Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"   Dear Sally,   You and the Ryde Birth Centre still looked terrific to me.  Liked how the one Ob. supported Midwives in the 7.30 report.    The couple who had ob care and had a 38hr labour and ended up with forceps - would have transferred her long ago and so no wait on ongoing care.  The 7.30 report inferred that the mother would have had to wait another 20 minutes for transport before getting her forcep birth, although with Midwifery care she would have probably been transferred long before she needed the forceps anyway.  I am sure the ob was waiting just outside the door 'just in case' he needed her for her forcep birth. So frustrating when they do not report in context.   What is wrong with 'Midwifery led units'?   Regards Anne Clarke Birth Centre, Brisbane   ----- Original Message ----- From: sally tracy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"   Dear Oz mids and Andrea I agree wholeheartedly with you we have to have  a better term......and on the day in Newcastle I proposed we stop suggesting any one practitioner is more important than another in this stuff and call the units 'co-operative maternity units'!! Co-ops between women midwives and the odd obstetrician or paed. I'm sorry the 7.30 report was so frightful....I knew it was going to be a mild disaster  - because they were soooo determined to have Mourik in all his glory and they really wanted me to respond. When I refused  - it was considered dull television , so I was completely caught out when they suggested to me that Sri Devis transfer was a failure!!!!! Crikey   - that's the two seconds worth of the at least (three hours filming) they decided to show of my response. Moral of the story is that we are caught in a horrible constant shark attack and we seem to always have to be defending our practice no matter what. The glimmer of light in last night program was the gorgeous women  - those who hadn't had a 28 hour labour!!! excuse me  - the Ryde women average about 6-8 hours...and didn't their babies look so alert and drug free!!!! Honey Acharya wrote: Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm   Cheers Honey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"       As I watched the 7.30 Report last night, that dreadful term "midwifery led unit" kept springing up. I have a real problem with this term, as you can read on My Diary:   http://www.birthinternational.com/diary/index.html   Can't we do better than this?   Thinking caps on please!   Andrea   ----- Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com     -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.         -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.     __________ NOD32 1.1222 (20050919) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 19/09/2005