In reply to Tania from what I have seen of the rebozo techniques I think the
idea is to do it as long as it takes for a change to take place perhaps
alternating techniques. I don't know that palps are the only way to tell.
Having had two OP babies I can tell for myself in any position. Even on all
fours but mainly the pain changes, from back to front. I actually spent 4
hours one night leaning over my kitchen table just rubbing down lightly but
firmly on the side the baby was laying. She moved, but was my 2nd and still
floating high on my EDD. Just my thoughts on it. 
Megan you can Google rebozo and find stuff on it too. Hope you find what
your looking for. I use mine a lot, but have not had to use it for an OP
yet.

Cheers

Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Providing Informational, Physical & Emotional Support during Pregnancy,
Child Birth & the Newborn time.
President of the Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville

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Sent: Friday, 27 January 2006 5:15 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP

Could anyone describe the "rebozo technique" to me, as I am currentlly 
caring for a lovely primip with an OP, term plus, who has been niggling for 
a few days. We have been trying OFP, stair walking, chunning etc with no 
success.
Thanks,
Megan

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From: "Tania Smallwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP


> Just to add to this, after talking about this the other night, I've been
> thinking a bit about it too.  Obviously an awareness of positioning of the
> baby is beneficial, but I'm with you Jo, too much emphasis on this, and 
> not
> enough practical applications, or answers to the questions, and it becomes
> an unhealthy obsession...
>
> Having said that, I'd be keen to try the Rebozo technique next time a
> persistent OP labour comes my way, (or should I say, a baby in a 
> persistent
> OP position), but how?  I understand the how of how to use the rebozo, but
> what about how long?  And do I then need to keep checking by palp the
> position of the baby, to determine whether it's been effective?  All 
> sounds
> like a lot of disruption to the normal birthing process, and I'm not sure
> under what circumstances I'd be happy to instigate all this 
> intervention...
>
> Any ideas from those more experienced?
>
> Tania
> x
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo
> Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2006 5:28 PM
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP
>
> Thanks Nancy,
> Having had 2 stubborn OP babies myself I lived and breathed the Optimal
> Fetal Positioning for the second child.  Interestingly I didn't get so
> hung up on it the third time and that was the only babe who was OA.
> Must say that there is a danger sometimes in being too obsessed with
> doing the 'right' thing.
>
> What I am interested in though, is rationale for stubborn OP babies and
> the premature pushing urge.  How does a woman who has laboured in a bath
> upright during all her labour overcome this problem?  I have had an
> experience where one woman whose baby was LOA during the last weeks of
> pregnancy, turned OP during an active upright drug free labour and then
> after 22 hours turned only to have the fetal heart rate plummet
> resulting in CS.  During the last 4 hours the urge to push was
> overwhelming and she was 6cm...lots of swelling and molding of baby
> head.  Would this be why it took so long to turn?  How do you avoid
> this?  Is this common or is it indicative to a type of pelvis??
>
> Need to dig deeper than just optimizing positions.  I know babies can
> and do birth fully OP but the links with premature pushing urge is of
> interest to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jo
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy San
> Martin
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:56 PM
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP
>
>
> Hi Jo,
> Have you read any of Jean Sutton's work? She wrote a book called
> "Optimal Fetal Positioning" in which she describes all about OP causes
> and prevention. She also designed a Pregnancy Rocker to aid in the
> prevention of OP from 34 weeks onward.
> Any more info about the Pregnancy rocker ...email me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Nancy
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo
> Sent: Monday, 16 January 2006 3:39 PM
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> Subject: [ozmidwifery] References required
>
> Could someone point me in the direction on further information about
> stubborn OP presentations and the links with premature pushing urges?
> Much appreciated Jo
>
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