Re: [ozmidwifery] the "Devine" Response!

[Janet Fraser]

I have to agree as someone who sees the evidence of PTSD every day around me in too many women. Don't healthy babies deserve healthy mothers? And how is a baby going to be parented in 6 months time when the mother is going under with PTSD? Or if she kills herself? Let alone how that "healthy" mother with her belly gaping or her vagina ripped open is supposed to care for that baby in the first place? The "healthy baby" myth is designed to keep us from complaining about medically sanctioned rape. I can just imagine Miranda's face if I said that to her. *rolls eyes* Sigh. J   ----- Original Message ----- From: Maxine Wilson To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:28 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] the "Devine" Response! Diane – perhaps pointing out that the ongoing health of the mother and baby are very much related to whether the mother has had a fulfilling experience in childbirth – unhappy mothers do not make for well mothers or well babies (ie PND, breastfeeding failure, relationship difficulties etc). Maxine       From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of diane Sent: Monday, 27 February 2006 5:21 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] the "Devine" Response!   Hi All, Here is Miranda's response to my letter!! Im thinking about mine....... Cant really swear at her can I?????   Dear Diane: As you know Prof Tracey is not an impartial observer and I am not the only person who does not consider her research to be "proof" of anything except the perfectly obvious proposition that you get better outcomes from low-risk births. RE a) No one is talking about rushing to RNS, just not duplicating resources at Gosford and Wyong. Ideally every woman would have a natural delivery with midwives but when things go wrong or she is desperate for pain relief, she and her child are entitled to the very best medical intervention possible. I want women and their babies to have that choice, and I don't like to see the state giovernment get off the hook on their responsibiliy to provide that care, as happened with Camden. I have written on this topic for ten years. I have done my research. I have approached the issue as an independent observer, concerned primarily for the health of mother and baby and less concerned about whether or not the mother has a fulfilling experience in childbirth or whether the supposedly patriarchal medical establishment has too much power. Miranda Devine The Sydney Morning Herald & The Sun-Herald 201 Sussex Street Sydney 2000 02 9282-1102