I did my postgrad training last year and throughout the whole year and up till now i have only ever seen 1 'trial of forceps' once upstairs prepped for theatre which ended up proceeding to caesarian anyway. I am at a large teaching hospital and it is very rare to see them used, vacuums are extremely common unfortunately. A lot of our women just seem to give up and refuse to push during second stage, even without an epidural, i think sometimes this is exzasperated by many midwives 'encouraging' active pushing. Even though i have read many books on natural birth and know the theory behind instinctive birthing it is very hard to get the courage to go against the flow, especially when you are still learning so much and everyone thinks their way is the best. Refards, Liz.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 7:31 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries I recently was present where a ventouse was used to turn a baby from POP, asynclitic position. It was very difficult, with extreme force and a very "generous" episiotomy. The baby was extremely shocked and had a head like a bowl of port wine jelly. It stayed 6 days under the Bili lights with high levels of jaundice.I believe that this was the ideal situation to use a Keillands for rotation and descent. Wriggley's was usually used to "lift out" the baby. This ventouse delivery has led to anguish and exhaustion for the mother, breast feeding interruption and confusion, formula feeding and a lack of connectedness with the baby. I haven't seen anyone use a Keillands or wriggly's for a long time. M -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
