RE: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position!!!!!

[Pauline Moore]

Unfortunately, Megan, nice, natural births are obviously not deemed ‘dramatic’ enough for New Idea.  It’s quite depressing thinking of all the thousands of women out there reading this stuff. Pauline   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Megan & Larry Sent: 09 August 2006 18:57 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position!!!!!   Has anyone seen a copy of the latest "No Idea"? Story about a footballer and the scary birth of his baby. No disrespect to his experience and all but... Goes something like, "we wanted a natural birth but a few days before our Doctors suggested a caesarean would be safest and given the baby had had some different lies during the pregnancy" Anyway, the drama was that during the surgery he heard them muttering and was informed the cord was twice around babies neck, no problems though. Talk about fear of childbirth and for them now, clearly the c/s has proven lifesaving, despite no medical indications. And what are the readers of "No Idea" going to take from this?   Its a tuff battle out there.   Megan   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 7:31 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position!!!!! The woman has to be pretty strong and fight if she wants a breech birth any place other than a home birth. OB's are all scared and want to do a CS regardless of what type of breech, whether she has had babies before etc etc. Cheers Judy >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/08/2006 5:51:06 pm >>> I'm curious, what are the supposed reasons it is necessary to know whether or not the baby is going to be breech? I thought breech was just another position, but still birth like the rest of it? (Part of me suspects the desire to find out whether a baby is breech is because the medical profession is keen to pathologise yet another element of wimmin's reproductive experiences as "abnormal" and in need of medical attention). My only knowledge about breech does come from Sarah Buckley's book, so I have been coloured by her experience and I don't think she knew her fourth was breech, or that it was seen as a problem? Can OzMid. wimmin enlighten me? Cheers, Sazz suzi and brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There was an article in the SMH last week - sorry don't have ref to researchers name at my fingertips - that indicated that midwives and doctors were on par at missing breeches. and that 1/3 of breeches were missed.  There was a quote from Adelaide Ob Brian Peat saying this evidence supports all women having an  u/s at 36 weeks to check presentation. Then he said midwives were as safe as doctors in determining position.   Suzi ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position!!!!!   Get a trial at the same A/N clinic and see.  Midwives  might be just as bad.  MM   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of diane Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 5:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position!!!!!   examined in the usual way by a doctor to assess the position of their baby.   Well I wonder if this would be replicated with midwives as the palpators!! 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