Private Health should provide real choice and start paying for best practice
i.e.
* private midwife's fee (continuity of care only)
*housekeeper/doula service for four hours each day for one week while the new mother establishes her lactation and bonds to her baby at home
Grand United are getting close to doing this.
I can imagine that any first-time mother coming home from a few days at the Hilton will be a prime candidate for post-partum depression once the reality of being home alone with her new baby sets in.
Jan
Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner
National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives
8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350
e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
My friend was really looking forward to her 5 star experience after the birth of her baby earlier this year. She felt like she was finally getting something back after paying hefty private health insurance for many years. She ended up with GD, being induced and emergency c-sect so didn't get to stay at the hotel "for free". She felt very ripped off!
How the hell can they justify spending our private health fund premiums on something like this?
Jayne
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<x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Janet Fraser</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:31 PM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Subject:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article</x-tad-bigger>
Women can find community though like in many forums where friendships and practical support abound, meals are cooked, children cared for and all without some unquestioning consumerism coming into play. Playgroups, ABA groups, forums, primary schools, birth groups are all good places for the kind of support desparately lacking in our lives. Maybe you could encourage meal provision among your DDCs? Denying the sacredness of birth and women is what has led us to this silly fake idea that a 5 star hotel makes up for that lack of respect and support we are accorded in pregnancy and birth. It's like the really consumerist baby shower instead of a woman-focussed blessingway or motherway. It's really sad that we live in a world where care by complete strangers is a treat and one from which our other children are removed.
J
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<x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Kelly @ BellyBelly</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:18 PM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Subject:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article</x-tad-bigger>
And the whole mindset of having a rest with your other kids somewhere else escapes me. Fark yucko.
<x-tad-bigger>>> I wouldn’t want to be away from my kids, but it’s because the problem lies far deeper than a matter of resting up at a hotel. It’s because far too many mothers do not have support, community and husbands working longer hours every week. They are desperate for a break, nurturing etc and they are not getting it. Need to work on the root cause of this not the symptoms. Big ask.</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Best Regards,</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Kelly Zantey</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Creator, </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>BellyBelly Birth Support</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>On Behalf Of </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Janet Fraser</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Thursday, 21 September 2006 6:21 PM</x-tad-bigger>
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Frankly it appals me that people think it's ok for health funds to cover this crap that should be a luxury we pay for ourselves. What about some equity of health care in this country? How about health funds pay for proper midwifery not bloody hotels. I think it's nauseating. Maybe if only SICK women, as opposed to BIRTHING women, were in hospital beds we wouldn't have a perceived need for luxury frigging hotels as a back up. And the whole mindset of having a rest with your other kids somewhere else escapes me. Fark yucko.
J
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<x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Kelly @ BellyBelly</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:20 PM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Subject:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>I posted the article on my forums, here is what women think of the idea – be it what you agree with or not – this is what THEY think so maybe we can get some ideas or learn something from this: </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=439579</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Best Regards,</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Kelly Zantey</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Creator, </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>BellyBelly Birth Support</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>On Behalf Of </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Mary Murphy</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Thursday, 21 September 2006 8:27 AM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Subject:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Importance:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> High</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>The Caroline flint you have contacted is a politician, not the midwife. Try putting midwife in front of the google search. It is confusing to have two high profile people with the same name. MM</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>On Behalf Of </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Vedrana Valcic</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Wednesday, 20 September 2006 6:11 PM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au</x-tad-bigger>
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<x-tad-bigger>Where can I find out more about her marketing strategies? Midwives in Croatia would certainly appreciate info about effective marketing strategies. I found this site: </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>, but I don’t know if there is something more detailed.</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Vedrana</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger> </x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>On Behalf Of </x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger>Mary Murphy</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:11 AM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Subject:</x-tad-bigger><x-tad-bigger> RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>The woman who best markets midwifery is Caroline Flint in the UK. We should copy her marketing strategies. MM</x-tad-bigger>
<x-tad-bigger>Kelly says..If we want women to accept and value the midwife then it needs to be marketed better, it needs to be trendy and jazzed up! Not just a choice being two sides of the fence with opposing views as it is now. And they want to know what it will do for THEM and what THEY will get out of it. At the moment there are very many women who do not see birth as something that needs to be in the home or is safe in home – that’s just a fact which we have to work on.</x-tad-bigger>
