Paul, I stripped out my menu CSS code, so that the page only loads the styles from the original core4.css (this is what the guys here said to do, and apparently that's OOTB code) I still have the same problem with not being able to trigger the menu flyouts with the keyboard. Has anyone had success with a 2010 menu that does work perfectly with the keyboard? (SP2007's table based menu allowed you to press the right arrow to open a flyout too) It also doesn't appear to shift the flyout upwards when the flyout is taller than the browser window (I haven't tried ideas from Dan and Paul Noone yet... except :focus - tried that all over the place and it did improve it, but not solve it) any more ideas?
Kathleen Smith Web Designer Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research. Industry House Level 4 10 Binara Street, Canberra City ACT 2601 GPO Box 9839, Canberra ACT 2601 Ph: 61-2-6213 6573 Email: [email protected] Internet: http://www.innovation.gov.au <blocked::http://www.innovation.gov.au/> ABN 74 599 608 295 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 1:53 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SP2010 Main Navigation problems - KeyboardaccessibilityandFlyouts [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Apologies. OOTB = Out-Of-The-Box The OOTB site templates will include CSS files that include all the necessary styles. It's possible you've inadvertently overwritten one of the style rules. Are you using custom master pages? Publishing site layouts? My suggestion would be to apply one of the default master pages to your top-level site (don't push down changes!) and see if it works as expected. If it does then you have a problem with your CSS, or are perhaps missing a core JS file. NB: please do this in a stage or dev environment. Regards, Paul -- Online Developer/SharePoint Administrator, ICT Infrastructure Team CEO Sydney From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Smith, Kathleen Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 1:34 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SP2010 Main Navigation problems - Keyboard accessibilityandFlyouts [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Paul, I have fully customised the CSS myself, to work with the LI and UL layout of the menu. I don't know what an OOTB is.... (You'll have to forgive me as I'm primarily a graphic/web designer and by no means a .NET developer. I just try to get things looking right via CSS) Kathleen Smith Web Designer Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research. Industry House Level 4 10 Binara Street, Canberra City ACT 2601 GPO Box 9839, Canberra ACT 2601 Ph: 61-2-6213 6573 Email: [email protected] Internet: http://www.innovation.gov.au <blocked::http://www.innovation.gov.au/> ABN 74 599 608 295 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 1:29 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SP2010 Main Navigation problems - Keyboard accessibilityandFlyouts [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi Kathleen, I think Paul is just stressing that you need to apply the appropriate style sheet. Have you customised the nav CSS or is this an OOTB site? Regards, Paul -- Online Developer/SharePoint Administrator, ICT Infrastructure Team CEO Sydney From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Smith, Kathleen Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 1:26 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SP2010 Main Navigation problems - Keyboard accessibility andFlyouts [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Paul Just to clarify, my menu is set up with UL and LI stuff - that's the only way it works in UseSimpleRendering-true mode. (Naturally the CSS for the 2007 menu wouldn't work unless UseSimpleRendering was set to false.) Kathleen Smith Web Designer Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research. Industry House Level 4 10 Binara Street, Canberra City ACT 2601 GPO Box 9839, Canberra ACT 2601 Ph: 61-2-6213 6573 Email: [email protected] Internet: http://www.innovation.gov.au <blocked::http://www.innovation.gov.au/> ABN 74 599 608 295 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Turner Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 1:16 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SP2010 Main Navigation problems - Keyboard accessibility andFlyouts [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] 2010 natively doesn't use tables for menus any more, it is DIV/SPAN UL, LI stuff that should be easy to apply CSS to. But any 2007 CSS won't work in 2010 because of this too, you need to review it for 2010 and fix it as required. http://blog.drisgill.com/2009/11/sharepoint-2010-w3c-xhtml-compliance.ht ml Regards Paul Turner Practice Lead - SharePoint SMS Management & Technology M 0412 748 168 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> www.smsmt.com <http://www.smsmt.com/> About SMS: Innovation House, Technology Park, Mawson Lakes Boulevard, Mawson Lakes SA 5095 SMS Management & Technology (SMS) [ASX:SMX] is Australia's largest publicly listed Management Services company. We solve complex problems and transform business through Consulting, Technology and Systems Integration P please consider the environment before printing this email ________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Smith, Kathleen [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: SP2010 Main Navigation problems - Keyboard accessibility and Flyouts [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] All, In SP2010, I have been working on the new CSS menu system that is enabled when UseSimpleRendering is set to true. My team have found two main problems with this menu system, and I can't seem to find any solutions. If we can't find solutions to these problems we will be forced to switch UseSimpleRendering back to false, and rely on the old table system instead. This would be a shame because it means taking a step backwards which defeats the purpose of using 2010's new menu system. (Both of these issues were not a problem in SP2007). The two problems are; 1) The main navigation menu cannot be accessed using a keyboard. In our situation, this is a deal breaker. When pressing the TAB key, if you watch the status bar at the bottom of the window, you can see that the URL is changing and it is working through the menu system, but there's no visual way of knowing that this is happening on the menu bar. In SP2007 this wasn't a problem. 2) Menu flyouts do not centre themselves vertically on the screen. For example, if you roll over the bottom link on the navigation menu and it has a corresponding flyout, and if this flyout contains a long-ish set of links, the flyout will extend itself over the bottom of the screen, making it impossible for the user to access those links. In SP2007, the flyouts automatically re-positioned themselves to move up the screen in a situation like this, making all links accessible. I read a post by Brian (thanks Brian!) that suggested not having so many links in the flyout to begin with, but we're not in a position to get the client to do this. Their site didn't have these issues in the 2007 version, so therefore we shouldn't have to make major changes the structure of the site just to suit this problem. I'm hoping somebody in this group has a solution, or at least some ideas to work with Cheers for now Kathleen ************************************************************************ * The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of the addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, read, forward, copy or retain any of the information. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. The Commonwealth does not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or any other defects. 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