+1.

Thanks Marton

timmycheng(程力) <[email protected]> 于2020年5月14日周四 下午3:04写道:

> +1.
>
> Thanks Marton.
>
> -Li
>
> On 2020/5/14, 2:55 PM, "Sammi Chen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     +1,
>
>     Thanks Marton for bring up the dicussion and providing the history
> info.
>
>     Bests,
>     Sammi
>
>     On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:53 PM Elek, Marton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     >
>     >
>     > I would like to start a discussion to make a separate Apache project
> for
>     > Ozone
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ### HISTORY [1]
>     >
>     >   * Apache Hadoop Ozone development started on a feature branch of
>     > Hadoop repository (HDFS-7240)
>     >
>     >   * In the October of 2017 a discussion has been started to merge it
> to
>     > the Hadoop main branch
>     >
>     >   * After a long discussion it's merged to Hadoop trunk at the March
> of
>     > 2018
>     >
>     >   * During the discussion of the merge, it was suggested multiple
> times
>     > to create a separated project for the Ozone. But at that time:
>     >      1). Ozone was tightly integrated with Hadoop/HDFS
>     >      2). There was an active plan to use Block layer of Ozone (HDDS
> or
>     > HDSL at that time) as the block level of HDFS
>     >      3). The community of Ozone was a subset of the HDFS community
>     >
>     >   * The first beta release of Ozone was just released. Seems to be a
>     > good time before the first GA to make a decision about the future.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ### WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED
>     >
>     >   During the last years Ozone became more and more independent both
> at
>     > the community and code side. The separation has been suggested again
> and
>     > again (for example by Owen [2] and Vinod [3])
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >   From COMMUNITY point of view:
>     >
>     >
>     >    * Fortunately more and more new contributors are helping Ozone.
>     > Originally the Ozone community was a subset of HDFS project. But now
> a
>     > bigger and bigger part of the community is related to Ozone only.
>     >
>     >    * It seems to be easier to _build_ the community as a separated
> project.
>     >
>     >    * A new, younger project might have different practices
>     > (communication, commiter criteria, development style) compared to
> old,
>     > mature project
>     >
>     >    * It's easier to communicate (and improve) these standards in a
>     > separated projects with clean boundaries
>     >
>     >    * Separated project/brand can help to increase the adoption rate
> and
>     > attract more individual contributor (AFAIK it has been seen in
> Submarine
>     > after a similar move)
>     >
>     >   * Contribution process can be communicated more easily, we can make
>     > first time contribution more easy
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >   From CODE point of view Ozone became more and more independent:
>     >
>     >
>     >   * Ozone has different release cycle
>     >
>     >   * Code is already separated from Hadoop code base
>     > (apache/hadoop-ozone.git)
>     >
>     >   * It has separated CI (github actions)
>     >
>     >   * Ozone uses different (more strict) coding style (zero toleration
> of
>     > unit test / checkstyle errors)
>     >
>     >   * The code itself became more and more independent from Hadoop on
>     > Maven level. Originally it was compiled together with the in-tree
> latest
>     > Hadoop snapshot. Now it depends on released Hadoop artifacts (RPC,
>     > Configuration...)
>     >
>     >   * It starts to use multiple version of Hadoop (on client side)
>     >
>     >   * Volume of resolved issues are already very high on Ozone side
> (Ozone
>     > had slightly more resolved issues than HDFS/YARN/MAPREDUCE/COMMON all
>     > together in the last 2-3 months)
>     >
>     >
>     > Summary: Before the first Ozone GA release, It seems to be a good
> time
>     > to discuss the long-term future of Ozone. Managing it as a separated
> TLP
>     > project seems to have more benefits.
>     >
>     >
>     > Please let me know what your opinion is...
>     >
>     > Thanks a lot,
>     > Marton
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > [1]: For more details, see:
>     > https://github.com/apache/hadoop-ozone/blob/master/HISTORY.md
>     >
>     > [2]:
>     >
>     >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0d0253f6e5fa4f609bd9b917df8e1e4d8848e2b7fdb3099b730095e6%40%3Cprivate.hadoop.apache.org%3E
>     >
>     > [3]:
>     >
>     >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8be74421ea495a62e159f2b15d74627c63ea1f67a2464fa02c85d4aa%40%3Chdfs-dev.hadoop.apache.org%3E
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