elek commented on a change in pull request #1411:
URL: https://github.com/apache/hadoop-ozone/pull/1411#discussion_r486432322



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+title: S3/Ozone Filesystem inter-op 
+summary: How to support both S3 and HCFS and the same time
+date: 2020-09-09
+jira: HDDS-4097
+status: draft
+author: Marton Elek, 
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+
+# Ozone S3 vs file-system semantics
+
+Ozone is an object-store for Hadoop ecosystem which can be used from multiple 
interfaces: 
+
+ 1. From Hadoop Compatible File Systems (will be called as *HCFS* in the 
remaining of this document) (RPC)
+ 2. From S3 compatible applications (REST)
+ 3. From container orchestrator as mounted volume (CSI, alpha feature)
+
+As Ozone is an object store it stores key and values in a flat hierarchy which 
is enough to support S3 (2). But to support Hadoop Compatible File System (and 
CSI), Ozone should simulated file system hierarchy.
+
+There are multiple challenges when file system hierarchy is simulated by a 
flat namespace:
+
+ 1. Some key patterns couldn't be easily transformed to file system path (e.g. 
`/a/b/../c`, `/a/b//d`, or a real key with directory path like `/b/d/`)
+ 2. Directory entries (which may have own properties) require special handling 
as file system interface requires a dir entry even if it's not created 
explicitly (for example if key `/a/b/c` is created `/a/b` supposed to be a 
visible directory entry for file system interface) 
+ 3. Non-recursive listing of directories can be hard (Listing direct entries 
under `/a` should ignore all the `/a/b/...`, `/a/b/c/...` keys) 
+ 4. Similar to listing, rename can be a costly operation as it requires to 
rename many keys (renaming a first level directory means a rename of all the 
keys with the same prefix)
+
+See also the [Hadoop S3A 
documentation](https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/hadoop-aws/tools/hadoop-aws/index.html#Introducing_the_Hadoop_S3A_client)
 which describes some of these problem when AWS S3 is used. (*Warnings* section)
+
+# Current status
+
+As of today *Ozone Manager* has two different interfaces (both are defined in 
`OmClientProtocol.proto`): 
+
+ 1. object store related functions (like *CreateKey*, *LookupKey*, 
*DeleteKey*,...)  
+ 2. file system related functions (like *CreateFile*, *LookupFile*,...)
+
+File system related functions uses the same flat hierarchy under the hood but 
includes additional functionalities. For example the `createFile` call creates 
all the intermediate directories for a specific key (create file `/a/b/c` will 
create `/a/b` and `/a` entries in the key space)
+
+Today, if a key is created from the S3 interface can cause exceptions if the 
intermediate directories are checked from HCFS:
+
+
+```shell
+$ aws s3api put-object --endpoint http://localhost:9878 --bucket bucket1 --key 
/a/b/c/d
+
+$ ozone fs -ls o3fs://bucket1.s3v/a/
+ls: `o3fs://bucket1.s3v/a/': No such file or directory
+```
+
+This problem is reported in 
[HDDS-3955](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDDS-3955), where a new 
configuration key is introduced (`ozone.om.enable.filesystem.paths`). If this 
is enabled, intermediate directories are created even if the object store 
interface is used.
+
+This configuration is turned off by default, which means that S3 and HCFS 
couldn't be used together.
+
+To solve the performance problems of the directory listing / rename, 
[HDDS-2939](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDDS-2939) is created, which 
propose to use a new prefix table to store the "directory" entries (=prefixes).
+
+[HDDS-4097](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDDS-4097) is created to 
normalize the key names based on file-system semantics if 
`ozone.om.enable.filesystem.paths` is enabled. But please note that 
`ozone.om.enable.filesystem.paths` should always be turned on if S3 and HCFS 
are both used which means that S3 and HCFS couldn't be used together with 
normalization.
+
+# Goals
+
+ * Out of the box Ozone should support both S3 and HCFS interfaces without any 
settings. (It's possible only for the regular, fs compatible key names)
+ * As 100% compatibility couldn't be achieved on both side we need a 
configuration to set the expectations for incompatible key names
+ * Default behavior of `o3fs` and `ofs` should be as close to `s3a` as 
possible (when s3 compatibilty is prefered)
+
+# Possible cases to support
+
+There are two main aspects of supporting both `ofs/o3fs` and `s3` together:
+
+ 1. `ofs/o3fs` require to create intermediate directory entries (for exapmle 
`/a/b` for the key `/b/c/c`)
+ 2. Special file-system incompatible key names require special attention
+
+The second couldn't be done with compromise.
+
+ 1. We either support all key names (including non fs compatible key names), 
which means `ofs/o3fs` can provide only a partial view
+ 2. Or we can normalize the key names to be fs compatible (which makes it 
possible to create inconsistent S3 keys)
+
+HDDS-3955 introduced `ozone.om.enable.filesystem.paths`, with this setting we 
will have two possible usage pattern:
+
+| ozone.om.enable.filesystem.paths= | true | false
+|-|-|-|
+| create itermediate dirs | YES | NO |
+| normalize key names from `ofs/o3fs` | YES | NO
+| force to normalize key names of `s3` interface | YES (1) | NO 
+| `s3` key `/a/b/c` available from `ofs/o3fs` | YES | NO
+| `s3` key `/a/b//c` available from `ofs/o3fs` | YES | NO
+| `s3` key `/a/b//c` available from `s3` | AWS S3 incompatibility | YES
+
+(1): Under implementation
+
+This proposal suggest to use a 3rd option where 100% AWS compatiblity is 
guaranteed in exchange of a limited `ofs/o3fs` view:
+
+| ozone.om.intermediate.dir.generation= | true |
+|-|-|-|
+| create itermediate dirs | YES | 
+| normalize key names from `ofs/o3fs` | YES |

Review comment:
       Yes. I just tried to show here this out-of-the-box behavior. But agree. 
   
   We have it for free and actually this couldn't be removed: if we use 
ofs/o3fs, the keys *from* ofs/o3fs should always be normalized.




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